回复编辑:“多系统萎缩的疾病进展:长期随访的临床队列的价值”

IF 7.4 1区 医学 Q1 CLINICAL NEUROLOGY
Lars Lau Raket PhD, Ingeborg Helbech Hansen PhD, Line Kühnel PhD, Daniel Oudin ?str?m PhD, Anna-Karin Berger PhD, Florian Krismer PhD, Gregor K. Wenning PhD, Klaus Seppi MD, Werner Poewe MD, José Luis Molinuevo MD, PhD
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我们很高兴读到Saulnier和同事关于我们的文章“多系统萎缩的疾病进展-新颖的建模框架和预测因素”的来信,我们感谢作者所做的令人印象深刻的工作,他们在更大、更现代的队列中复制和扩展了我们的研究。正如Saulnier及其同事正确指出的那样,我们的研究依赖于121名疾病阶段相对较晚的患者,随访时间为2年。我们承认这些局限性,并完全同意更大的样本量和更长的个体随访时间对于实现多系统萎缩(MSA)自然历史疾病轨迹的高质量估计的重要性。作者复制了我们的疾病进展模型,使用了663名法国MSA队列患者,随访期长达11年,与我们的研究结果相比,估计MSA进展轨迹的持续时间更长。虽然队列之间的差异在平均基线疾病严重程度和症状持续时间方面有限(欧洲MSA研究队列为5.4年,法国MSA队列为4.5年),但由于其他队列的差异(研究进行的年份、研究地点等),预计会有一些差异。有趣的是,作者探讨了将纵向随访数据限制在2.5年是如何影响估计的。作者发现,与使用长期随访数据相比,限制样本导致的轨迹压缩,患者间差异较小。基于这些发现,Saulnier及其同事认为,限制随访时间的研究可能高估了进展率,低估了患者间的差异,我们同意这可能是事实。我们的疾病进展模型在潜在时间尺度上执行时间重新校准,这需要在估计平均轨迹的(垂直)偏差和时间尺度上的(水平)偏差之间进行权衡。权衡是在基于最大似然原则的完全数据驱动方法中确定的。当个体患者水平轨迹的长期模式不够清晰时,该模型可能优先考虑垂直差异的最小化,而不是估计时间模式。Saulnier和他的同事没有提到的评估的一个方面是多重结果测量的作用。在我们的研究中,我们使用六种不同的结果测量方法对齐患者样本,而在法国MSA队列中,只有两种结果测量方法用于复制。纳入更多与疾病相关的措施增加了每个患者用于预测其潜伏疾病时间的观察数据点的数量,这可能会缓解与短期随访有关的一些问题。这项基于法国MSA队列的重复研究强调了长期随访数据对准确描述MSA长期疾病进展的重要性。这些发现不仅对观察性研究的设计很重要,而且对潜在的疾病改善疗法的介入研究也很重要,在这些研究中,更长的个体随访将使人们更好地了解治疗如何改变疾病的进程。他目前是礼来公司的一名员工,当研究论文完成时,他受雇于H. Lundbeck A/S。都会死A。k。b。i。h。h。h。和j。l。m。是h。Lundbeck A/S的雇员。L.K.是BEC Financial Technologies的员工,在研究论文完成时受雇于H. Lundbeck A/S。F.K.收到了国际研究机构Servier、Clarion Healthcare、武田制药、赛诺菲、Teva、Bial和奥地利神经病学学会的个人费用,并在提交的工作之外获得了MSA联盟、奥地利科学基金和国家卫生研究院的资助。G.K.W.报告来自Biohaven、Biogen、Inhibikase、Lundbeck、Ono、Takeda和Theravance的演讲费、咨询费和酬金,以及来自奥地利科学基金、帕金森基金、MSA联盟、NIH ATB、国际帕金森病和运动障碍学会、奥地利帕金森学会、奥地利自主学会、奥地利自主学会、Eisai、Minoryx、Novartis、Vaxxinity的资助;施普林格·自然出版集团和泰姆出版社的版税。K.S.是FWF奥地利科学基金、Michael J. Fox基金会、国际帕金森氏症和运动障碍学会、AOP孤儿制药公司和欧盟(全部捐给该机构)资助的接受者。K.S.已收到Ono Pharma UK、Lundbeck和Ever Pharma的咨询费用。K.S.已经收到了来自梯瓦、UCB、AOP孤儿制药公司、罗氏、grnenthal、Stada、利彻制药、Biogen、Bial和艾伯维的讲座费用。K.S. 已收到bibi、Stada和AbbVie顾问委员会的报酬,以及国际帕金森与运动障碍学会的酬金。W.P.报告了AC Immune、Alterity、AbbVie、Affiris、Bial、Biogen、Britannia、Lilly、Lundbeck、Neuroderm、Neurocrine、Roche、Sunovion、Stada、武田、UCB和Zambon与帕金森病临床药物开发项目相关的咨询和讲座费用;来自阿斯利康、波士顿科学、Intec、Ipsen、德纳利制药、诺华、Orion制药、普雷克斯顿、梯瓦的个人费用;以及Thieme、Wiley Blackwell、牛津大学出版社和剑桥大学出版社的版税,以及MJFF、欧盟FP7和地平线2020计划的资助。构思与设计(C)、起草(D)、批判性审查与修订(R)的作用分别为: cdrl . h .: cdrl.k .: rd.Å。: rj . b .: rf.k .: rg.w .: rk.s .: rw.p .: rj.m .: r
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Reply to Letter to the Editor: “Disease Progression in Multiple System Atrophy: The Value of Clinical Cohorts with Long Follow-Up”

We are pleased to read the letter by Saulnier and colleagues related to our article “Disease Progression in Multiple System Atrophy—Novel Modeling Framework and Predictive Factors,”1 and we thank the authors for the impressive work they have done to replicate and expand on our research in a larger and more contemporary cohort.

As Saulnier and colleagues rightly point out, our study relied on a cohort of 121 patients with a relatively advanced disease stage and a limited follow-up period of 2 years. We acknowledge these limitations and fully agree on the importance of both larger sample size and longer individual follow-up duration for achieving high-quality estimates of the natural history disease trajectory in multiple system atrophy (MSA).

The authors’ replication of our disease progression modeling using the larger French MSA cohort of 663 patients with a follow-up period of up to 11 years estimated a longer duration of the MSA progression trajectory compared to our findings. Although differences between the cohorts were limited in terms of average baseline disease severity and symptom duration (5.4 years in the European MSA study cohort vs. 4.5 years in the French MSA cohort), some differences are to be expected due to other cohort differences (years in which the study was ongoing, study locations, etc.). Interestingly, the authors explored how restricting longitudinal follow-up data to 2.5 years affected the estimates. The authors found that restricting samples resulted in a compressed trajectory with smaller interpatient differences compared to using long-term follow-up data. Based on these findings, Saulnier and colleagues suggest that studies of restricted follow-up time could overestimate progression rate and underestimate interpatient differences, which we agree may be the case. Our disease progression model performs temporal recalibration on a latent timescale, which requires a trade-off between the (vertical) deviation from the estimated mean trajectory and the (horizontal) deviation on the timescale. The trade-off is determined in a fully data-driven approach based on the maximum likelihood principle. When long-term patterns are not sufficiently clear in individual patient-level trajectories, the model may prioritize minimization of vertical differences over estimating temporal patterns. One aspect of the estimation that was not addressed by Saulnier and colleagues is the role of multiple outcome measures. In our study, we aligned patient samples using six different outcome measures, whereas only two outcome measures were used for replication in the French MSA cohort. Including a greater number of disease-relevant measures increases the number of observed data points per patient used to predict their latent disease time, which could possibly alleviate some of the issues related to shorter-term follow-up.

This replication study based on the French MSA cohort underscores the importance of long-term follow-up data to accurately describe long-term disease progression in MSA. These findings are important not only for the design of observational studies but also for interventional studies of potentially disease-modifying therapies, where longer individual follow-up will enable a better understanding of how treatment changes the course of disease.

L.L.R. is currently an employee at Lilly and was employed at H. Lundbeck A/S when the work of the research paper was done. D.O.Å., A.-K.B., I.H.H., and J.L.M. are employees at H. Lundbeck A/S. L.K. is an employee at BEC Financial Technologies and was employed at H. Lundbeck A/S when the work of the research paper was done. F.K. received personal fees from Institut de Recherches Internationales Servier, Clarion Healthcare, Takeda Pharmaceuticals, Sanofi, Teva, Bial, and the Austrian Society of Neurology and received grant support from the MSA Coalition, Austrian Science Fund, and the National Institutes of Health outside of the submitted work. G.K.W. reports speaker fees, consulting fees, and honoraria from Biohaven, Biogen, Inhibikase, Lundbeck, Ono, Takeda, and Theravance and grants from the Austrian Science Funds, Parkinson funds, MSA Coalition, NIH ATB, the International Parkinson Disease and Movement Disorders Society, Austrian Parkinson Society, Austrian Autonomic Society, Austrian Autonomic Society, Eisai, Minoryx, Novartis, Vaxxinity; royalties from Springer Nature Publishing Group and Thieme Verlag. K.S. is a recipient of grants from the FWF Austrian Science Fund, The Michael J. Fox Foundation, International Parkinson and Movement Disorder Society, AOP Orphan Pharmaceuticals AG, and EU (all to the institution). K.S. has received payment for consultations from Ono Pharma UK, Lundbeck, and Ever Pharma. K.S. has received payment for lectures from Teva, UCB, AOP Orphan Pharmaceuticals AG, Roche, Grünenthal, Stada, Licher Pharma, Biogen, Bial, and AbbVie. K.S. has received payment for participation in advisory boards from Bial, Stada, and AbbVie, and honoraria from the International Parkinson and Movement Disorders Society. W.P. reports consultancy and lecture fees from AC Immune, Alterity, AbbVie, Affiris, Bial, Biogen, Britannia, Lilly, Lundbeck, Neuroderm, Neurocrine, Roche, Sunovion, Stada, Takeda, UCB, and Zambon in relation to clinical drug development programs for Parkinson's disease; personal fees from AstraZeneca, Boston Scientific, Intec, Ipsen, Denali Pharmaceuticals, Novartis, Orion Pharma, Prexton, Teva; as well as royalties from Thieme, Wiley Blackwell, Oxford University Press, and Cambridge University Press and grant support from the MJFF and EU FP7 and Horizon 2020 programs.

Roles of conception and design (C), drafting (D), critical review and revision (R) were:

L.R.: CDR

I.H.: CDR

L.K.: R

D.Å.: R

A.B.: R

F.K.: R

G.W.: R

K.S.: R

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Movement Disorders
Movement Disorders 医学-临床神经学
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期刊介绍: Movement Disorders publishes a variety of content types including Reviews, Viewpoints, Full Length Articles, Historical Reports, Brief Reports, and Letters. The journal considers original manuscripts on topics related to the diagnosis, therapeutics, pharmacology, biochemistry, physiology, etiology, genetics, and epidemiology of movement disorders. Appropriate topics include Parkinsonism, Chorea, Tremors, Dystonia, Myoclonus, Tics, Tardive Dyskinesia, Spasticity, and Ataxia.
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