关于“慢性心力衰竭患者F-SIRI与不良预后的关系”的评论

IF 2.3 3区 医学 Q2 CARDIAC & CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEMS
Çağrı Zorlu
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Could the authors provide further details on how these thresholds were validated externally or compared to existing literature? For instance, studies like Xia et al. used different SIRI cut-offs for cardiovascular outcomes, which may affect the reproducibility of F-SIRI [<span>2</span>]. Additionally, the single measurement of F-SIRI at admission may not capture dynamic inflammatory changes, as acknowledged in the limitations. Have the authors considered serial measurements to assess the stability of F-SIRI's prognostic value?</p><p>The study reports a significant association between higher F-SIRI levels and all-cause mortality (adjusted HR 2.37, 95% CI 1.46–3.83, <i>p</i> &lt; 0.001) but no significant association with major adverse cardiac and cerebral events (MACCEs) or cardiovascular death after multivariate adjustments. This discrepancy is puzzling, as inflammation and coagulation are established contributors to cardiovascular events in CHF [<span>3, 4</span>]. 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Furthermore, the restricted cubic spline analysis suggests a non-linear relationship between SIRI and outcomes, yet the discussion does not explore the clinical implications of this finding. Could the authors elaborate on how this non-linearity might affect the practical application of F-SIRI in risk stratification?</p><p>The authors highlight F-SIRI's incremental predictive value over traditional risk factors but do not compare its performance to established inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein (CRP) or interleukin-6 (IL-6), which are widely studied in CHF [<span>8</span>]. Given that F-SIRI is a composite marker, a head-to-head comparison with CRP or other indices (e.g., neutrophil-to-lymphocyte ratio) would strengthen the claim of its superior prognostic utility. Have the authors considered such comparisons, and if not, could they discuss the feasibility of including these markers in future studies?</p><p>In conclusion, Liu et al.'s study is a commendable step toward integrating inflammation and coagulation markers for CHF prognostication. However, addressing the above points could enhance the robustness and clinical applicability of F-SIRI. We encourage the authors to clarify these aspects and consider prospective studies to validate their findings. 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我们饶有兴趣地阅读了Liu等人发表在《临床心脏病学》(2025;DOI: 10.1002/clc.70166),该研究探讨了纤维蛋白原和全身炎症反应指数(F-SIRI)在慢性心力衰竭(CHF)患者中的预后价值。该研究为炎症和凝血在CHF风险分层中的作用提供了有价值的见解。然而,我们想提出几点澄清和讨论,以加强对调查结果的解释。作者使用100次随机分割的受试者工作特征(ROC)曲线和三次交叉验证确定F-SIRI截断值(SIRI≥1.22,纤维蛋白原≥2.55 g/L)。虽然这种方法是可靠的,但选择这些特定截断值的基本原理及其在不同CHF人群中的普遍性尚不清楚。作者能否提供关于这些阈值如何在外部验证或与现有文献进行比较的进一步细节?例如,Xia等人的研究对心血管结果使用了不同的SIRI截止值,这可能会影响F-SIRI bbb的可重复性。此外,入院时单次测量F-SIRI可能无法捕捉到动态炎症变化,这在局限性中得到了承认。作者是否考虑过系列测量来评估F-SIRI预后价值的稳定性?该研究报告了较高的F-SIRI水平与全因死亡率之间的显著相关性(校正后的HR 2.37, 95% CI 1.46-3.83, p < 0.001),但在多因素调整后与主要不良心脑事件(MACCEs)或心血管死亡之间没有显著相关性。这种差异令人费解,因为炎症和凝血是CHF中心血管事件的确定因素[3,4]。例如,CANTOS试验表明,靶向炎症可减少炎症标志物[5]升高患者的心血管事件。作者能否详细说明为什么F-SIRI能预测全因死亡率,而不能预测心血管疾病的具体结果?具体来说,是否单独分析了非心血管死亡原因(例如感染和恶性肿瘤)来解释这一发现?多变量Cox模型调整了许多混杂因素,包括人口统计学、合并症和药物。然而,该研究并未考虑心力衰竭的严重程度,如纽约心脏协会(NYHA)功能分类或特定病因(如缺血性与非缺血性CHF)。这些因素显著影响预后和炎症标志物[6]。作者能否澄清在分析中是否考虑了NYHA类别或心力衰竭病因?此外,考虑到炎症和左心室射血分数(LVEF)降低与射血分数(HFrEF)降低之间的已知关联,F-SIRI组间左心室射血分数(LVEF)缺乏显著差异(p = 0.3596)令人惊讶。作者是否可以讨论将HFrEF和心力衰竭合并保留射血分数(HFpEF)患者纳入是否会稀释这种相关性?这篇文章报道了F-SIRI组的全因死亡和心血管死亡发生率相同(例如,两种结果中,F-SIRI = 0的发生率为24 [6.94%],F-SIRI = 1的发生率为82 [11.19%],F-SIRI = 2的发生率为101[19.80%])。这可能是一个报告错误,因为全因死亡应包括心血管和非心血管死亡。作者能否确认这是否是一个印刷错误或对数据进行澄清?此外,限制性三次样条分析表明SIRI与预后之间存在非线性关系,但讨论并未探讨这一发现的临床意义。作者能否详细说明这种非线性如何影响F-SIRI在风险分层中的实际应用?作者强调了F-SIRI对传统危险因素的预测价值,但没有将其性能与已建立的炎症标志物如c反应蛋白(CRP)或白细胞介素-6 (IL-6)进行比较,这些标志物在瑞士被广泛研究。鉴于F-SIRI是一种复合标志物,与CRP或其他指标(如中性粒细胞与淋巴细胞比率)的直接比较将加强其优越预后效用的主张。作者是否考虑过这样的比较,如果没有,他们是否可以讨论在未来的研究中包括这些标记的可行性?总之,Liu等人的研究是将炎症和凝血标志物结合起来预测CHF的值得赞扬的一步。然而,解决上述问题可以提高F-SIRI的稳健性和临床适用性。我们鼓励作者澄清这些方面,并考虑前瞻性研究来验证他们的发现。我们感谢有机会参与这次科学讨论,并感谢作者对该领域的贡献。作者声明无利益冲突。
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Comments on “Association Between F-SIRI and Adverse Prognosis in Patients With Chronic Heart Failure”

We read with interest the article by Liu et al. published in Clinical Cardiology (2025; DOI: 10.1002/clc.70166), which explores the prognostic value of the fibrinogen and systemic inflammation response index (F-SIRI) in patients with chronic heart failure (CHF) [1] The study provides valuable insights into the role of inflammation and coagulation in CHF risk stratification. However, we would like to raise several points for clarification and discussion to enhance the interpretation of the findings.

The authors determined F-SIRI cut-off values (SIRI ≥ 1.22, fibrinogen ≥ 2.55 g/L) using a Receiver Operating Characteristic (ROC) curve with 100 random splits and threefold cross-validation. While this approach is robust, the rationale for selecting these specific cut-offs and their generalizability across diverse CHF populations is unclear. Could the authors provide further details on how these thresholds were validated externally or compared to existing literature? For instance, studies like Xia et al. used different SIRI cut-offs for cardiovascular outcomes, which may affect the reproducibility of F-SIRI [2]. Additionally, the single measurement of F-SIRI at admission may not capture dynamic inflammatory changes, as acknowledged in the limitations. Have the authors considered serial measurements to assess the stability of F-SIRI's prognostic value?

The study reports a significant association between higher F-SIRI levels and all-cause mortality (adjusted HR 2.37, 95% CI 1.46–3.83, p < 0.001) but no significant association with major adverse cardiac and cerebral events (MACCEs) or cardiovascular death after multivariate adjustments. This discrepancy is puzzling, as inflammation and coagulation are established contributors to cardiovascular events in CHF [3, 4]. For example, the CANTOS trial demonstrated that targeting inflammation reduces cardiovascular events in patients with elevated inflammatory markers [5]. Could the authors elaborate on potential reasons why F-SIRI predicts all-cause mortality but not cardiovascular-specific outcomes? Specifically, were non-cardiovascular causes of death (e.g., infections and malignancies) analyzed separately to explain this finding?

The multivariate Cox models adjusted for numerous confounders, including demographics, comorbidities, and medications. However, the study does not account for the severity of heart failure, such as New York Heart Association (NYHA) functional class or specific etiologies (e.g., ischemic vs. non-ischemic CHF). These factors significantly influence prognosis and inflammatory markers [6]. Could the authors clarify whether NYHA class or heart failure etiology was considered in the analysis? Additionally, the lack of significant differences in left ventricular ejection fraction (LVEF) across F-SIRI groups (p = 0.3596) is surprising, given the known association between inflammation and reduced LVEF in heart failure with reduced ejection fraction (HFrEF) [7]. Could the authors discuss whether the inclusion of both HFrEF and heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (HFpEF) patients might have diluted this association?

The article reports identical event rates for all-cause death and cardiovascular death across F-SIRI groups (e.g., 24 [6.94%] in F-SIRI = 0, 82 [11.19%] in F-SIRI = 1, and 101 [19.80%] in F-SIRI = 2 for both outcomes). This is likely a reporting error, as all-cause death should encompass cardiovascular and non-cardiovascular deaths. Could the authors confirm whether this is a typographical error or provide clarification on the data? Furthermore, the restricted cubic spline analysis suggests a non-linear relationship between SIRI and outcomes, yet the discussion does not explore the clinical implications of this finding. Could the authors elaborate on how this non-linearity might affect the practical application of F-SIRI in risk stratification?

The authors highlight F-SIRI's incremental predictive value over traditional risk factors but do not compare its performance to established inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein (CRP) or interleukin-6 (IL-6), which are widely studied in CHF [8]. Given that F-SIRI is a composite marker, a head-to-head comparison with CRP or other indices (e.g., neutrophil-to-lymphocyte ratio) would strengthen the claim of its superior prognostic utility. Have the authors considered such comparisons, and if not, could they discuss the feasibility of including these markers in future studies?

In conclusion, Liu et al.'s study is a commendable step toward integrating inflammation and coagulation markers for CHF prognostication. However, addressing the above points could enhance the robustness and clinical applicability of F-SIRI. We encourage the authors to clarify these aspects and consider prospective studies to validate their findings. We appreciate the opportunity to engage in this scientific discussion and thank the authors for their contribution to the field.

The author declares no conflicts of interest.

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Clinical Cardiology
Clinical Cardiology 医学-心血管系统
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期刊介绍: Clinical Cardiology provides a fully Gold Open Access forum for the publication of original clinical research, as well as brief reviews of diagnostic and therapeutic issues in cardiovascular medicine and cardiovascular surgery. The journal includes Clinical Investigations, Reviews, free standing editorials and commentaries, and bonus online-only content. The journal also publishes supplements, Expert Panel Discussions, sponsored clinical Reviews, Trial Designs, and Quality and Outcomes.
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