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Kidron et al.(《心理学杂志》,2025年)最近的一篇论文旨在证明,由b德尔等人(《心理学杂志》,2008年)在南极泰勒谷的Falconer山测量的空气和岩石温度之间高达25°C的极端差异可能是错误的。他们提出了可能导致我们对露珠建模的错误来源。通过重新编程我们的(Hoffmann, 1955)和他们的(Beysens, 2018)建议的模型,我们已经证明,即使使用这两个模型,我们关于气候数据的计算也是正确的。我们提供了来自林奈台地(南极洲干谷)的新的气候数据来支持我们的结果,通过单细胞(Chroococidiopsis sp.)和丝状蓝藻菌株(Funiculus sociatus)的水相关净光合作用来支持我们的结果。与Kidron等人的说法相反,两种蓝藻的净光合作用都远低于1毫米降水当量的含水量。我们建议进一步改进现场测量以加强我们的观察,并得出结论,通过冷凝重新激活失活的内生蓝藻可能是可能的,但可能不是水的主要来源。
Reply to comment of Kidron et al. (2025) on Büdel et al. (2008).
In their recent paper Kidron et al. (Journal of Phycology, 2025) aimed to demonstrate that the reported extreme differences of up to 25°C between air and rock temperatures measured by Büdel et al. (Journal of Phycology, 2008) at Mt. Falconer in the Antarctic Taylor Valley, were likely in error. They suggested possible sources of errors that might have led to our modeling of dewfall. By reprogramming our (Hoffmann, 1955) and their (Beysens, 2018) suggested models, we have shown that our calculations regarding climatic data were correct, even with both models. We have provided new climate data from Linnaeus Terrace (Dry Valleys, Antarctica) to support our results, by water-related net photosynthesis of a unicellular (Chroococidiopsis sp.) and a filamentous cyanobacterial strain (Funiculus sociatus). In contrast to the claim of Kidron et al., both cyanobacteria showed positive net photosynthesis well below 1 mm precipitation equivalent water content. We suggest further improved field measurements to strengthen our observation and conclude that reactivation of inactive endolithic cyanobacteria by condensation could be possible but might not be the main source of water.
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The Journal of Phycology was founded in 1965 by the Phycological Society of America. All aspects of basic and applied research on algae are included to provide a common medium for the ecologist, physiologist, cell biologist, molecular biologist, morphologist, oceanographer, taxonomist, geneticist, and biochemist. The Journal also welcomes research that emphasizes algal interactions with other organisms and the roles of algae as components of natural ecosystems.
All aspects of basic and applied research on algae are included to provide a common medium for the ecologist, physiologist, cell biologist, molecular biologist, morphologist, oceanographer, acquaculturist, systematist, geneticist, and biochemist. The Journal also welcomes research that emphasizes algal interactions with other organisms and the roles of algae as components of natural ecosystems.