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Then we prove that after adding any number of Cohen reals to a model of CH, in the extension every <em>regular</em> space in <span><math><mi>C</mi><mo>(</mo><msub><mrow><mi>ω</mi></mrow><mrow><mn>1</mn></mrow></msub><mo>)</mo></math></span> has countable net weight.</div><div>In the last section we prove in ZFC the following two statements:</div><div>(i) If <span><math><mi>S</mi><mo>⊂</mo><msub><mrow><mi>ω</mi></mrow><mrow><mn>1</mn></mrow></msub></math></span> is stationary then for any <em>regular</em> topology on <em>S</em> of uncountable weight <em>S</em> has a non-stationary subset that has uncountable weight as well.</div><div>(ii) For any topology on <span><math><msub><mrow><mi>ω</mi></mrow><mrow><mn>1</mn></mrow></msub></math></span>, if all final segments of <span><math><msub><mrow><mi>ω</mi></mrow><mrow><mn>1</mn></mrow></msub></math></span> have uncountable weight then <span><math><msub><mrow><mi>ω</mi></mrow><mrow><mn>1</mn></mrow></msub></math></span> has a non-stationary subset of uncountable weight.</div><div>In contrast to this, it was shown in <span><span>[6]</span></span> that the analogous statements for net weight are not provable in ZFC.</div><div>It is remarkable that all our proofs of the above results make essential use of elementary submodels.</div></div>","PeriodicalId":51201,"journal":{"name":"Topology and its Applications","volume":"373 ","pages":"Article 109469"},"PeriodicalIF":0.5000,"publicationDate":"2025-06-02","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":"{\"title\":\"Weight, net weight, and elementary submodels\",\"authors\":\"Alan Dow , István Juhász\",\"doi\":\"10.1016/j.topol.2025.109469\",\"DOIUrl\":null,\"url\":null,\"abstract\":\"<div><div>In this note we prove several theorems that are related to some results and problems from <span><span>[6]</span></span>.</div><div>We answer two of the main questions that were raised in <span><span>[6]</span></span>. 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In this note we prove several theorems that are related to some results and problems from [6].
We answer two of the main questions that were raised in [6]. First we give a ZFC example of a Hausdorff space in that has uncountable net weight. Then we prove that after adding any number of Cohen reals to a model of CH, in the extension every regular space in has countable net weight.
In the last section we prove in ZFC the following two statements:
(i) If is stationary then for any regular topology on S of uncountable weight S has a non-stationary subset that has uncountable weight as well.
(ii) For any topology on , if all final segments of have uncountable weight then has a non-stationary subset of uncountable weight.
In contrast to this, it was shown in [6] that the analogous statements for net weight are not provable in ZFC.
It is remarkable that all our proofs of the above results make essential use of elementary submodels.
期刊介绍:
Topology and its Applications is primarily concerned with publishing original research papers of moderate length. However, a limited number of carefully selected survey or expository papers are also included. The mathematical focus of the journal is that suggested by the title: Research in Topology. It is felt that it is inadvisable to attempt a definitive description of topology as understood for this journal. Certainly the subject includes the algebraic, general, geometric, and set-theoretic facets of topology as well as areas of interactions between topology and other mathematical disciplines, e.g. topological algebra, topological dynamics, functional analysis, category theory. Since the roles of various aspects of topology continue to change, the non-specific delineation of topics serves to reflect the current state of research in topology.
At regular intervals, the journal publishes a section entitled Open Problems in Topology, edited by J. van Mill and G.M. Reed. This is a status report on the 1100 problems listed in the book of the same name published by North-Holland in 1990, edited by van Mill and Reed.