Ivan Mangiulli, Marko Jelicic, Mark L. Howe, Lawrence Patihis, Olivier Dodier, Rafaële Huntjens, Elisa Krackow, Steven Jay Lynn, Henry Otgaar
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These observations have led to interpretations of these findings as representing dissociative amnesia or repressed memories. On the other hand, researchers (McNally, <span>2007</span>; Merckelbach & Patihis, <span>2018</span>) have contended that scientific data do not consistently support the special nature of traumatic memories or the frequent occurrence of amnesia for a given event (Mangiulli et al., <span>2022</span>; McNally, <span>2003</span>; Otgaar et al., <span>2019</span>). Instead, the lack of clear evidence supporting dissociation from (or repression of) traumatic memories contrasts with substantial data suggesting that negative and stressful experiences enhance, rather than impair, memory (Shields et al., <span>2017</span>). Even if differences in characteristics exist between traumatic and non-traumatic memories, it does not necessarily implicate dissociation or repression as a cause or consequence.</p><p>Overall, there is much to appreciate in Mazzoni et al. (<span>2025</span>). Their paper took a middle ground in the debate, considering evidence from opposing perspectives, and assessing merits and flaws in relation to both sides. Yet even with this open-minded approach, it is crucial to stress that not all evidence carries equal weight. For instance, a primary source of evidence for which traumatic memories are deemed so special is derived from neuro-related data. This body of research substantiates that traumatic memories may possess specific neurobiological and neuropsychological underpinnings, suggesting qualitative distinctions in the encoding, consolidation and retrieval processes compared with other memories (e.g. ordinary experiences), thereby entailing special mechanisms distinct from general memory function (but see Rubin et al., <span>2008</span>). As Mazzoni et al. 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关于创伤性记忆的本质的持续争论吸引了许多学者,每个人都提供证据,支持或反对将这种记忆与其他情感记忆区分开来的特殊属性。Mazzoni等人(2025)提供了一个关于创伤记忆主题的平衡和全面的视角。一方面,他们指出,大量的临床观察以及一些神经生物学研究的结果表明,创伤性记忆往往缺乏语言内容,并伴随着强烈的身体感觉,因此在这方面很特别(Brewin, 2016;索姆斯,2018;范德科尔克,1998)。这些观察结果导致了对这些发现的解释,即代表分离性健忘症或压抑的记忆。另一方面,研究人员(McNally, 2007;Merckelbach,Patihis, 2018)认为,科学数据并不一致地支持创伤记忆的特殊性或对特定事件经常发生的健忘症(Mangiulli et al., 2022;麦克纳利,2003;Otgaar et al., 2019)。相反,缺乏明确的证据支持创伤记忆的分离(或压抑),而大量数据表明,消极和紧张的经历会增强而不是损害记忆(Shields et al., 2017)。即使创伤性记忆和非创伤性记忆在特征上存在差异,也不一定意味着分离或压抑是原因或结果。总的来说,Mazzoni等人(2025)有很多值得欣赏的地方。他们的论文在辩论中采取了中间立场,从对立的角度考虑证据,并评估双方的优缺点。然而,即使采用这种开明的方法,也必须强调并非所有证据都具有同等的重要性。例如,创伤记忆被认为是如此特殊的主要证据来源来自神经相关数据。这一研究证实,创伤性记忆可能具有特定的神经生物学和神经心理学基础,表明与其他记忆(如普通经历)相比,创伤性记忆的编码、巩固和检索过程存在定性差异,因此需要与一般记忆功能不同的特殊机制(但参见Rubin等人,2008)。正如Mazzoni等人(2025)正确地观察到的——我们在这里进行扩展——在这种情况下,一个常见的错误是通过大脑中特定区域的激活来推断特定认知过程的参与,比如创伤事件的记忆丧失。然而,这种形式的反向推理缺乏演绎的有效性,体现了肯定结果的逻辑谬误。在认知神经科学中,特定认知过程的存在不能从观察到的脑血流模式中可靠地推断出来(Poldrack, 2006)。同样,仅从大脑区域的改变或激素(功能失调)来推断精神疾病(如解离性健忘症)的存在,在方法上是不合理的。相比之下,那些对创伤性事件的损害效应持怀疑态度的人认识到,有必要提出强有力的、方法学上合理的替代假设,特别是在缺乏解离性遗忘症的特定生物标志物的情况下(Huntjens et al., 2022)。这些替代假设(如有机记忆丧失、装病和普通遗忘)都是基于证据的(Jelicic, 2023;Zago et al., 2023),表明创伤记忆占据了一个独特的领域,导致严重的无意识遗忘是值得怀疑的。当然,作为科学家,保持思想开放是至关重要的。有时,尽管排除了许多可能性,但解释创伤后的记忆丧失仍然具有挑战性。然而,这种复杂性不应导致我们求助于证据基础薄弱的现象或解释。考虑到目前的知识水平,反对创伤性记忆确实具有特殊性的证据可能比支持创伤性记忆“特殊性”的证据更有分量。
The weight of evidence regarding the nature of traumatic memories: A comment on Mazzoni et al.
The ongoing debate about the nature of traumatic memories has engaged numerous scholars, each providing evidence either for or against special properties that distinguish such memories from other emotional memories. Mazzoni et al. (2025) offered a balanced and comprehensive perspective concerning the topic of traumatic memories. On the one hand, they pointed out that numerous clinical observations, and supposedly the results of some neurobiological studies, have shown that traumatic memories often lack verbal content and are accompanied by intense bodily sensations, making them special in this regard (Brewin, 2016; Solms, 2018; Van der Kolk, 1998). These observations have led to interpretations of these findings as representing dissociative amnesia or repressed memories. On the other hand, researchers (McNally, 2007; Merckelbach & Patihis, 2018) have contended that scientific data do not consistently support the special nature of traumatic memories or the frequent occurrence of amnesia for a given event (Mangiulli et al., 2022; McNally, 2003; Otgaar et al., 2019). Instead, the lack of clear evidence supporting dissociation from (or repression of) traumatic memories contrasts with substantial data suggesting that negative and stressful experiences enhance, rather than impair, memory (Shields et al., 2017). Even if differences in characteristics exist between traumatic and non-traumatic memories, it does not necessarily implicate dissociation or repression as a cause or consequence.
Overall, there is much to appreciate in Mazzoni et al. (2025). Their paper took a middle ground in the debate, considering evidence from opposing perspectives, and assessing merits and flaws in relation to both sides. Yet even with this open-minded approach, it is crucial to stress that not all evidence carries equal weight. For instance, a primary source of evidence for which traumatic memories are deemed so special is derived from neuro-related data. This body of research substantiates that traumatic memories may possess specific neurobiological and neuropsychological underpinnings, suggesting qualitative distinctions in the encoding, consolidation and retrieval processes compared with other memories (e.g. ordinary experiences), thereby entailing special mechanisms distinct from general memory function (but see Rubin et al., 2008). As Mazzoni et al. (2025) rightly observed—which we expand here—a common mistake in this context involves inferring the involvement of a specific cognitive process, such as memory loss for traumatic events, from the activation of a particular area in the brain. This form of reverse inference, however, lacks deductive validity, embodying the logical fallacy of affirming the consequent. In cognitive neuroscience, it is well established that the presence of specific cognitive processes cannot be reliably inferred from observed patterns of cerebral blood flow (Poldrack, 2006). Similarly, inferring the existence of a psychiatric disorder (e.g. dissociative amnesia), solely from alterations in brain regions or hormonal (dis)functioning is methodologically unsound. In contrast, those sceptical about the impairing effect of traumatic events recognise that there exists a necessity to present robust, methodologically sound alternative hypotheses, especially in the absence of specific biomarkers for dissociative amnesia (Huntjens et al., 2022). These alternative hypotheses (e.g. organic memory loss, malingering and ordinary forgetting) are evidence-based (Jelicic, 2023; Zago et al., 2023), showing that traumatic memories occupy a distinct realm leading to severe unconscious forgetting is questionable.
Of course, as scientists, it is crucial to stay open-minded. Sometimes, despite ruling out many possibilities, explaining memory loss after trauma remains challenging. However, this complexity should not lead us to resort to phenomena or explanations for which the evidence base is weak. Considering the current state of knowledge, the evidence against traumatic memories being indeed special is likely to weigh more than the evidence in favour of the ‘specialness’ of traumatic memories.
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Legal and Criminological Psychology publishes original papers in all areas of psychology and law: - victimology - policing and crime detection - crime prevention - management of offenders - mental health and the law - public attitudes to law - role of the expert witness - impact of law on behaviour - interviewing and eyewitness testimony - jury decision making - deception The journal publishes papers which advance professional and scientific knowledge defined broadly as the application of psychology to law and interdisciplinary enquiry in legal and psychological fields.