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Wong 和 Bartlett 对费米悖论的解释是,人类文明和地外文明都无法摆脱时间窗口奇点,他们声称,这是因为文明的社会特征遵循城市的超线性增长曲线。我们质疑城市层面的数据是否一定能得出文明层面的结论。更具体地说,我们提出了从研究、远见、多样性和有效的未来政府中学习的方法,这些方法可能会在他们的模型之外发挥作用,调节文明的超线性增长曲线,从而实质性地增加文明向卡达舍夫量表更高层次发展的可能性。此外,我们认为他们所声称的地球社会崩溃史难以证明他们的模型是正确的。总之,我们有理由怀疑他们提出的模型能否令人满意地解释费米悖论。
Why the Fermi paradox may not be well explained by Wong and Bartlett's theory of civilization collapse. A Comment on: 'Asymptotic burnout and homeostatic awakening: a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?' (2022) by Wong and Bartlett.
Wong and Bartlett explain the Fermi paradox by arguing that neither human nor extra-terrestrial civilizations can escape the time window singularity which, they claim, results from the way in which social characteristics of civilizations follow super-linear growth curves of cities. We question if data at the city level necessarily can lead to conclusions at the civilization level. More specifically, we suggest ways in which learnings from research, foresight, diversity and effective future government might act outside of their model to regulate super-linear growth curves of civilizations, and thus substantively increase the likelihood of civilizations progressing towards higher levels of the Kardashev scale. Moreover, we believe their claimed history of the collapse of terrestrial societies used to evidence their model is difficult to justify. Overall, we cast reasonable doubt on the ability of their proposed model to satisfactorily explain the Fermi paradox.
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