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摘要
本文以1904年至1920年梅农与罗素的争论为背景,对现存的金山问题进行了不同的思考。也就是说,我们正在谈论罗素的论点,即美农的理论包含了关于不同类型存在的矛盾。根据罗素的说法,原来美农认为存在的金山是存在的,但它并不存在。整个讨论分为几个阶段。在讨论过程中,两位作者的观念发生了变化,他们对彼此的理论和问题的表述态度也发生了变化。罗素在嘉年华上认为,对于不存在的物体,比如现在的法国国王、金山或圆形正方形,断言存在任何正确命题是错误的。在讨论的那个阶段,美农理论并没有足够的工具来阐明自己在这个问题上的立场。这个问题在十年后才得到解决,但“现存的金山”问题一直没有得到美农的充分澄清。梅农同意罗素的观点,认为根据罗素的理论,“现有的金山是存在的,但不存在”是正确的命题,但同时指出“存在”的概念是在不同的意义上使用的。美农的评论家和追随者(Ernst Mally, John Findlay, Dale Jacquette)认为这种细化并不能解决问题,因此在对象理论的框架内提出了自己的解决方案。他们提出的方法是否真正解决了现存金山的问题,是否违背了美农理论的原则,最后,是否有可能解决这个问题,是本研究的目的。
‘Existent Golden Mountain’ as main problem of Meinong’s theory
This paper considers different views on existent golden mountain problem, the subject of dispute within the framework of the discussion between Alexius Meinong and Bertrand Russell, which took place in the period from 1904 to 1920. Namely, we are talking about Russell’s argument that Meinong’s theory contains a contradiction regarding different types of existence. According to Russell, it turns out that Meinong thought that the existent golden mountain exists, but it does not exist. The entire discussion was divided into several stages. During the discussion, the conceptions of both authors changed, as well as their attitude to each other’s theories and the formulation of the problem. Russell at fiesta thought that it’s wrong to assert that there can be any correct propositions about non-existent objects like the current king of France, the golden mountain, or a round square. At that stage of the discussion the theory of Meinong did not have sufficient tools to clarify its position on this issue. This problem was solved only ten years later, but the problem of the “existing golden mountain” remained and was never sufficiently clarified by Meinong. Meinong agreed with Russell that, according to his theory, it follows “The existing golden mountain exists, but does not exist” is correct proposition, but at the same time pointed out that the concept of ‘existence’ is used in a different sense. Commentators and followers of Meinong (Ernst Mally, John Findlay, Dale Jacquette) believed that this refinement did not solve the problem, and therefore offered their own solutions in the framework of the theory of objects.The purpose of this study is to find out whether the methods proposed by them really solve the problem of the existent golden mountain, whether they violate any principles of the Meinong theory, and finally, whether it is possible to solve this problem.