Comments on “horizontal gravity disturbance vector in atmospheric dynamics” by Peter C. Chu

IF 1.9 4区 地球科学 Q2 GEOCHEMISTRY & GEOPHYSICS
Edmund K.M. Chang , Christopher L.P. Wolfe , Andrew L. Stewart , James C. McWilliams
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In a recent paper [Chu (2023; Chu23)], the author formulated the equations governing atmospheric motion in a spheroidal coordinate system. Since the mass distribution of the Earth is not exactly spheroidal, the true gravity is not vertical in that coordinate system. Chu23 compared the magnitude of the static horizontal component of gravity in that system to those of the dynamically active forces and concluded that the horizontal components of gravity should not be neglected. In recent papers by the authors [Chang and Wolfe (2022; CW22) and Stewart and McWilliams (2022; CW22)], we explained that the actual interpretation of the approximation made in atmospheric and oceanic modeling is not neglecting the horizontal component of the true gravity, but is a geometrical approximation, approximating nearly spheroidal geopotential surfaces with bumps on which the true gravity is vertical by exactly spheroidal surfaces. We showed that under such an interpretation, the errors due to the geometrical approximation are small. Chu23 claimed that CW22 and SM22 erroneously neglected the gravity perturbations in their analyses. Here, we explain further the differences between these approaches, in the process showing that the criticisms of Chu23 on CW22 and SM22 are invalid, further supporting our conclusion that the horizontal component of the true gravity is not relevant in ocean and atmospheric dynamics. Physically, the reason why horizontal gravity is irrelevant in the coordinate system used by Chu23 is that it is balanced by a static horizontal pressure gradient force.

对朱棣文“大气动力学中的水平重力扰动矢量”的评析
在最近的一篇论文[Chu(2023;Chu23)]中,作者在球坐标系中建立了控制大气运动的方程。由于地球的质量分布并不完全是球体,因此真正的重力在该坐标系中并不垂直。Chu23将该系统中静态水平重力分量的大小与动态主动力的大小进行了比较,得出的结论是不应忽视水平重力分量。在作者[Chang和Wolfe(2022;CW22)以及Stewart和McWilliams(2022;CW 22)]最近的论文中,我们解释说,在大气和海洋建模中对近似的实际解释并没有忽视真实重力的水平分量,而是一种几何近似,近似于具有凸点的近似球形位势表面,在凸点上真实重力是垂直的。我们证明,在这种解释下,由于几何近似引起的误差很小。Chu23声称CW22和SM22在分析中错误地忽略了重力扰动。在这里,我们进一步解释了这些方法之间的差异,表明Chu23对CW22和SM22的批评是无效的,进一步支持了我们的结论,即真实重力的水平分量与海洋和大气动力学无关。从物理上讲,水平重力在Chu23使用的坐标系中无关紧要的原因是,它是由静态水平压力梯度力平衡的。
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Dynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans
Dynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans 地学-地球化学与地球物理
CiteScore
3.10
自引率
5.90%
发文量
43
审稿时长
>12 weeks
期刊介绍: Dynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans is an international journal for research related to the dynamical and physical processes governing atmospheres, oceans and climate. Authors are invited to submit articles, short contributions or scholarly reviews in the following areas: •Dynamic meteorology •Physical oceanography •Geophysical fluid dynamics •Climate variability and climate change •Atmosphere-ocean-biosphere-cryosphere interactions •Prediction and predictability •Scale interactions Papers of theoretical, computational, experimental and observational investigations are invited, particularly those that explore the fundamental nature - or bring together the interdisciplinary and multidisciplinary aspects - of dynamical and physical processes at all scales. Papers that explore air-sea interactions and the coupling between atmospheres, oceans, and other components of the climate system are particularly welcome.
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