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摘要
我们的评论[1]最近试图区分等离子体辅助光催化的热和非热(“热载流子”)贡献[2],这引发了对纳米等离子体和化学领域先前关于该主题的文献的重新评估过程。Zhou等人[3]的Response试图为原论文[2]的观点辩护。在这篇论文中,我们表明Response[3]提供了额外的数据,进一步验证了我们的核心批评:不准确的测量温度(低于催化剂的实际温度)导致Zhou \etal错误地声称非热效应的确凿证据。我们发现了实验设置中的缺陷(例如使用热像仪的默认设置和温度计的不正确定位),这可能导致Zhou等人做出这样的声明。我们进一步表明,回应包含几个事实错误,并没有解决我们在[2]中发现的数据采集技术问题。我们证明了Response[3]和原始论文[2]都包含额外的错误,例如,在功率确定和催化剂体积速率的归一化方面,并且对金属纳米结构的热光学响应表现出误解。提出一种新的物理机制所要求的举证责任根本没有得到满足,特别是当现有的数据可以用传统理论精确地建模时。[1]Y. Sivan, J. Baraban, I. W. Un & Y. Dubi,《科学》第364卷,第6439期,eaaw9367。https://science.sciencemag.org/content/364/6439/eaaw9367.abstract [2] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/362/6410/69[3] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/364/6439/eaaw9545
Eppur Si Riscalda - and yet, It (Just) Heats Up: Further Comments on “Quantifying Hot Carrier and Thermal Contributions in Plasmonic Photocatalysis”
Our Comment [1] on recent attempts to distinguish thermal and non-thermal (``hot carrier'') contributions to plasmon-assisted photocatalysis [2] initiated a re-evaluation process of previous literature on the topic within the nano-plasmonics and chemistry communities. The Response of Zhou et al [3] attempts to defend the claims of the original paper [2].
In this manuscript, we show that the Response [3] presents additional data that further validates our central criticism: inaccurately measured temperatures (that are lower than the actual temperature of the catalyst) led Zhou \etal to incorrectly claim conclusive evidence of non-thermal effects. We identify flaws in the experimental setup (e.g. the use of the default settings for the thermal camera and incorrect positioning of the thermometer) that may have led Zhou et al to make such claims. We further show that the Response contains several factual errors and does not address the technical problems we identified with the data acquisition in [2]. We demonstrate that both the Response [3] and the original paper [2] contain additional faults, for example, in the power determination and in the normalization of the rate to the catalyst volume, and exhibit misconceptions regarding the thermo-optic response of metal nanostructures. The burden of proof required by the proposal of a novel physical mechanism has simply not been met, especially when the existing data can be modeled exquisitely by conventional theory.