{"title":"祛魅、理性化和集体自我神圣化。对Siniša Malešević的答复","authors":"H. Joas","doi":"10.1080/2158379X.2022.2055282","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"My book ‘The Power of the Sacred’, originally published in German in 2017 and in French translation in 2020, has become the subject matter of controversial discussions in both countries. As the author of it I certainly have no intention to complain about this fact even if I do not experience all contributions as sympathetic or plausible. In Germany, a discussion volume has come out to which internationally renowned philosophers, sociologists and theologians like Charles Taylor, Björn Wittrock and Hermann Deuser have contributed (Schlette et al . 2022). In France, another such volume is currently in preparation, and it remains to be seen how the echo in the English-speaking world will be. The Harvard historian James Kloppenberg has taken this book as the point of departure for a wide-ranging presentation of my whole intellectual biography (Kloppenberg 2022), and the first extensive American review by the sociologist Richard Madsen, a prominent member of the so-called Bellah group, has treated my work thoroughly and fairly (Madsen 2022). I am fortunate that the same can be said about the present contribution. Its author and I have for a long time shared an interest in the historical sociology of war and organised violence, and more recently have been brought together in the debate about religion and (neo-) nationalism in Europe (Höhne and Meireis 2020). I do not see our exchange here as a controversy, but I have accepted the invitation to respond because this allows me to clarify a few points in a review that undoubtedly attempts to do justice both to my critique of Max Weber and to my proposed alternative to his narrative of disenchantment.","PeriodicalId":45560,"journal":{"name":"Journal of Political Power","volume":"15 1","pages":"358 - 361"},"PeriodicalIF":2.6000,"publicationDate":"2022-03-27","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":"{\"title\":\"Disenchantment, Rationalisation and Collective Self-Sacralisation. Reply to Siniša Malešević\",\"authors\":\"H. Joas\",\"doi\":\"10.1080/2158379X.2022.2055282\",\"DOIUrl\":null,\"url\":null,\"abstract\":\"My book ‘The Power of the Sacred’, originally published in German in 2017 and in French translation in 2020, has become the subject matter of controversial discussions in both countries. 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我的书《神圣的力量》(The Power of The Sacred)最初于2017年以德语出版,并于2020年翻译成法语,已成为两国争议性讨论的主题。作为作者,我当然无意抱怨这一事实,即使我并不认为所有的贡献都令人同情或可信。在德国,Charles Taylor、Björn Wittrock和Hermann Deuser等国际知名哲学家、社会学家和神学家撰写了一本讨论卷(Schlette et al .)。2022)。在法国,另一本这样的书目前正在准备中,在英语世界的反响如何还有待观察。哈佛大学历史学家詹姆斯·克洛彭伯格(James Kloppenberg)以这本书为出发点,对我的整个知识分子传记进行了广泛的介绍(Kloppenberg 2022),社会学家理查德·马德森(Richard Madsen)是所谓的贝拉集团的杰出成员,他对我的工作进行了全面而公正的评价(Madsen 2022)。我很幸运,目前的贡献也可以这么说。作者和我长期以来都对战争和有组织暴力的历史社会学感兴趣,最近在关于欧洲宗教和(新)民族主义的辩论中(Höhne和Meireis 2020)走到了一起。我不认为我们在这里的交流是一场争论,但我接受了回应的邀请,因为这使我能够澄清一些观点,这些观点无疑试图公正地对待我对马克斯·韦伯的批评,以及我对他的祛魅叙事提出的替代方案。
Disenchantment, Rationalisation and Collective Self-Sacralisation. Reply to Siniša Malešević
My book ‘The Power of the Sacred’, originally published in German in 2017 and in French translation in 2020, has become the subject matter of controversial discussions in both countries. As the author of it I certainly have no intention to complain about this fact even if I do not experience all contributions as sympathetic or plausible. In Germany, a discussion volume has come out to which internationally renowned philosophers, sociologists and theologians like Charles Taylor, Björn Wittrock and Hermann Deuser have contributed (Schlette et al . 2022). In France, another such volume is currently in preparation, and it remains to be seen how the echo in the English-speaking world will be. The Harvard historian James Kloppenberg has taken this book as the point of departure for a wide-ranging presentation of my whole intellectual biography (Kloppenberg 2022), and the first extensive American review by the sociologist Richard Madsen, a prominent member of the so-called Bellah group, has treated my work thoroughly and fairly (Madsen 2022). I am fortunate that the same can be said about the present contribution. Its author and I have for a long time shared an interest in the historical sociology of war and organised violence, and more recently have been brought together in the debate about religion and (neo-) nationalism in Europe (Höhne and Meireis 2020). I do not see our exchange here as a controversy, but I have accepted the invitation to respond because this allows me to clarify a few points in a review that undoubtedly attempts to do justice both to my critique of Max Weber and to my proposed alternative to his narrative of disenchantment.