尿尿素排泄指数指导急性肾损伤患者脱离肾替代治疗:仍未发现我为什么要断奶

IF 9.3 1区 医学 Q1 CRITICAL CARE MEDICINE
Khalil Chaïbi, Stéphane Gaudry
{"title":"尿尿素排泄指数指导急性肾损伤患者脱离肾替代治疗:仍未发现我为什么要断奶","authors":"Khalil Chaïbi, Stéphane Gaudry","doi":"10.1186/s13054-025-05581-7","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"<p>To the Editor,</p><p>We acknowledge the effort by Bodot et al. to explore the under-addressed topic of renal replacement therapy (RRT) discontinuation in critically ill patients with acute kidney injury (AKI) [1]. The study addresses a relevant issue and, in its introduction, rightly refers to the hypothesis that RRT itself may contribute to ongoing kidney injury through hemodynamic instability and other mechanisms. However, we believe that certain methodological and conceptual aspects, beginning with the underlying rationale, could benefit from further refinement, which may enhance the robustness of the conclusions and support broader applicability of the proposed approach in routine practice.</p><p>While the authors do not explicitly frame their study in these terms, their approach reflects an increasingly common tendency to define RRT discontinuation through structured protocols and fixed variable thresholds, in a manner reminiscent of mechanical ventilation (MV) weaning [2]. However, the process of MV weaning is critical because premature extubation can result in emergency reintubation, and increased mortality [3]. By contrast, stopping RRT too early typically leads only to the resumption of RRT (with need for catheter reinsertion in some instances) which is rarely associated with significant harm. The authors suggest that stopping RRT too early could result in fluid accumulation, delayed MV weaning, prolonged ICU stays, and increased mortality. This contention is not convincingly supported by the existing literature. In fact, emerging data, suggest that an overly aggressive approach to fluid removal in the early phase of AKI might actually worsen outcomes [4]. Then, the potential harms of RRT continuation, including hemodynamic instability and catheter-related complications, may outweigh the speculative risks of early cessation. The emphasis should therefore shift from the fear of stopping too soon to a more nuanced assessment of when further sessions are truly beneficial. From this perspective, the risk associated with early discontinuation of RRT is modest. It is therefore debatable whether the search for strict RRT weaning criteria is justified. In other words, the more relevant clinical question may not be “when to stop RRT” based on a predefined threshold, but rather “whether to continue” on a given day, depending on the patient’s evolving condition and ongoing indication for RRT. In this view, the focus shifts from a binary decision based on fixed criteria to a continuous clinical judgement aiming not only to avoid premature discontinuation, but also to recognize when further RRT sessions are no longer necessary [5].</p><p>Beyond this, the methodological framework chosen by the authors raises additional concerns. The primary endpoint, catheter-free days at day 28, relies on a clinician-driven decision and, while it captures a relevant process of care, it remains a surrogate outcome that does not directly measure total RRT duration, renal recovery, or any patient-centered benefit. Since the authors explicitly aim to define objective criteria for RRT discontinuation, one would have expected a primary outcome more directly linked to renal function or clinical recovery, rather than an indirect and operator-dependent measure. Moreover, in a before–after design, one cannot exclude that the observed differences stemmed in part from increased awareness and procedural vigilance regarding catheter removal in the second period, a form of behavioral shift that commonly arises when a protocol is introduced on a topic perceived as a “hot issue” by the clinical team. The introduction of a formal urinary biomarker–based strategy may have reinforced a shared perception that catheter removal should be actively pursued, thus increasing protocol adherence and shortening time to discontinuation, even independently of the urinary urea excretion index (UUEI) itself. Without objective data on overall RRT use, timing to renal recovery, or complications avoided, it remains uncertain whether the intervention truly impacted patient outcomes or primarily altered procedural momentum.</p><p>The physiological appeal of using urinary urea excretion as a marker of renal recovery is understandable since the ability to concentrate urea reflects tubular function and medullary integrity. However, the evidence supporting the urinary UUEI is thin. The threshold of 1.35 mmol/kg/24 h originates from a small, single-center, retrospective study conducted over a decade ago and involving only 67 patients [6]. This study has not been prospectively validated or replicated. Its findings, while intriguing, cannot serve as a foundation for practice-changing recommendations. While a meta-analysis reports a high AUROC in favor of UUEI (0.96 versus 0.86 for urine output [UO]), this result stems entirely from the original study [2]. This apparent superiority may be misleading: UUEI is calculated by simply multiplying two existing variables: UO and urinary urea concentration. As such, it is not an independent marker, but rather a composite of values already used in clinical practice. Because UO is both a component of UUEI and the main comparator, this mathematical overlap artificially boosts the correlation between the two, making the index seem more predictive than it may actually be. Without external validation, it is unclear whether UUEI truly adds useful clinical information beyond what is already provided by its two individual components. This uncertainty extends to its practical value at the bedside. Indeed, if intensivists observe a UO exceeding 8.5 mL/kg over 24 h (as reported in the initial study [6]), they already have a strong signal of potential renal recovery. Measuring urinary urea, calculating a product, and comparing it to a rigid threshold adds layers of complexity and delay without demonstrable benefit. Urine output, although imperfect, remains an accessible, reproducible, and widely accepted surrogate for renal function recovery which is already used in numerous protocols [7, 8]. If we accept that UO is an acceptable benchmark, and that avoiding unnecessary sessions is a worthwhile goal, then the focus should be on identifying even earlier predictors than UO itself. The goal should not be to confirm recovery that is already evident, but to avoid prolonging RRT when it is no longer useful. The problem is not the absence of strict thresholds but the continuation of RRT by default in patients who may not need it. In this light, indices like UUEI do not solve the problem, they shift it into a different form, with added complexity.</p><p> Finally, the use of a before–after methodology in the field of RRT is debatable. Clinical practice around RRT has changed over the past decade, especially with the publication of major trials advocating for delayed RRT initiation [9]. These changes influence not only when RRT is started, but also which patients are selected, what modalities are used, and how clinicians approach weaning. It is therefore difficult to isolate the effect of a new protocol from these background shifts. The authors acknowledge that in at least one center, catheter withdrawal occurred earlier in the period due to different initiation practices. </p><p>In conclusion, determining the optimal timing for RRT discontinuation and catheter removal is a relevant and practical question for intensivists. However, the methodological limitations of the present study including its before–after design, reliance on an unvalidated index threshold, and the lack of patient-centered outcomes weaken the strength of its conclusions. While the authors contribute to an important discussion, these limitations argue against adopting such a protocol beyond its original context. Until more robust evidence is available, the discontinuation of RRT should remain a flexible, patient-specific decision, grounded in clinical judgment.</p><p>No datasets were generated or analysed during the current study.</p><ol data-track-component=\"outbound reference\" data-track-context=\"references section\"><li data-counter=\"1.\"><p>Bodot S, Gros A, Le Gall L, Martin A, Gisbert-Mora C, Pillot J, et al. Effects of the urinary urea excretion index on the decision to wean ICU patients with acute kidney injury from renal replacement therapy: a before-after multicentre study (D-STOP). Crit Care. 2025;29:261.</p><p>Google Scholar </p></li><li data-counter=\"2.\"><p>Katulka RJ, Al Saadon A, Sebastianski M, Featherstone R, Vandermeer B, Silver SA, et al. 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From evidence to practice: declining use of renal replacement therapy in critically ill patients with acute kidney injury Critical Care 2025, 29(S1):P058.</p></li></ol><p>Download references<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" height=\"16\" role=\"img\" width=\"16\"><use xlink:href=\"#icon-eds-i-download-medium\" xmlns:xlink=\"http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\"></use></svg></p><h3>Authors and Affiliations</h3><ol><li><p>Département de réanimation médico-chirurgicale, APHP Hôpital Avicenne, Bobigny, France</p><p>Khalil Chaïbi &amp; Stéphane Gaudry</p></li><li><p>Common and Rare Kidney Diseases, Sorbonne Université, INSERM, UMR-S 1155, Paris, France</p><p>Khalil Chaïbi &amp; Stéphane Gaudry</p></li><li><p>Investigation Network Initiative–Cardiovascular and Renal Clinical Trialists, Bobigny, France</p><p>Khalil Chaïbi &amp; Stéphane Gaudry</p></li></ol><span>Authors</span><ol><li><span>Khalil Chaïbi</span>View author publications<p><span>Search author on:</span><span>PubMed<span> </span>Google Scholar</span></p></li><li><span>Stéphane Gaudry</span>View author publications<p><span>Search author on:</span><span>PubMed<span> </span>Google Scholar</span></p></li></ol><h3>Contributions</h3><p>KC and SG wrote the manuscript.</p><h3>Corresponding author</h3><p>Correspondence to Khalil Chaïbi.</p><h3>Ethical Approval and Consent to participate</h3>\n<p>Not applicable.</p>\n<h3>Consent for publication</h3>\n<p>Not applicable.</p>\n<h3>Availability of supporting data</h3>\n<p>Not applicable.</p>\n<h3>Competing interests</h3>\n<p>The authors declare no competing interests.</p><h3>Publisher’s note</h3><p>Springer Nature remains neutral with regard to jurisdictional claims in published maps and institutional affiliations.</p><p><b>Open Access</b> This article is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, which permits any non-commercial use, sharing, distribution and reproduction in any medium or format, as long as you give appropriate credit to the original author(s) and the source, provide a link to the Creative Commons licence, and indicate if you modified the licensed material. 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Urinary urea excretion index to guide weaning from renal replacement therapy in patients with acute kidney injury: <i>Still haven’t found what i’m weaning for</i>. <i>Crit Care</i> <b>29</b>, 326 (2025). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13054-025-05581-7</p><p>Download citation<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" height=\"16\" role=\"img\" width=\"16\"><use xlink:href=\"#icon-eds-i-download-medium\" xmlns:xlink=\"http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\"></use></svg></p><ul data-test=\"publication-history\"><li><p>Received<span>: </span><span><time datetime=\"2025-07-18\">18 July 2025</time></span></p></li><li><p>Accepted<span>: </span><span><time datetime=\"2025-07-22\">22 July 2025</time></span></p></li><li><p>Published<span>: </span><span><time datetime=\"2025-07-26\">26 July 2025</time></span></p></li><li><p>DOI</abbr><span>: </span><span>https://doi.org/10.1186/s13054-025-05581-7</span></p></li></ul><h3>Share this article</h3><p>Anyone you share the following link with will be able to read this content:</p><button data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"get shareable link\" data-track-external=\"\" data-track-label=\"button\" type=\"button\">Get shareable link</button><p>Sorry, a shareable link is not currently available for this article.</p><p data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"select share url\" data-track-label=\"button\"></p><button data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"copy share url\" data-track-external=\"\" data-track-label=\"button\" type=\"button\">Copy to clipboard</button><p> Provided by the Springer Nature SharedIt content-sharing initiative </p>","PeriodicalId":10811,"journal":{"name":"Critical Care","volume":"68 1","pages":""},"PeriodicalIF":9.3000,"publicationDate":"2025-07-26","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":"{\"title\":\"Urinary urea excretion index to guide weaning from renal replacement therapy in patients with acute kidney injury: Still haven’t found what i’m weaning for\",\"authors\":\"Khalil Chaïbi, Stéphane Gaudry\",\"doi\":\"10.1186/s13054-025-05581-7\",\"DOIUrl\":null,\"url\":null,\"abstract\":\"<p>To the Editor,</p><p>We acknowledge the effort by Bodot et al. to explore the under-addressed topic of renal replacement therapy (RRT) discontinuation in critically ill patients with acute kidney injury (AKI) [1]. The study addresses a relevant issue and, in its introduction, rightly refers to the hypothesis that RRT itself may contribute to ongoing kidney injury through hemodynamic instability and other mechanisms. However, we believe that certain methodological and conceptual aspects, beginning with the underlying rationale, could benefit from further refinement, which may enhance the robustness of the conclusions and support broader applicability of the proposed approach in routine practice.</p><p>While the authors do not explicitly frame their study in these terms, their approach reflects an increasingly common tendency to define RRT discontinuation through structured protocols and fixed variable thresholds, in a manner reminiscent of mechanical ventilation (MV) weaning [2]. However, the process of MV weaning is critical because premature extubation can result in emergency reintubation, and increased mortality [3]. By contrast, stopping RRT too early typically leads only to the resumption of RRT (with need for catheter reinsertion in some instances) which is rarely associated with significant harm. The authors suggest that stopping RRT too early could result in fluid accumulation, delayed MV weaning, prolonged ICU stays, and increased mortality. This contention is not convincingly supported by the existing literature. In fact, emerging data, suggest that an overly aggressive approach to fluid removal in the early phase of AKI might actually worsen outcomes [4]. Then, the potential harms of RRT continuation, including hemodynamic instability and catheter-related complications, may outweigh the speculative risks of early cessation. The emphasis should therefore shift from the fear of stopping too soon to a more nuanced assessment of when further sessions are truly beneficial. From this perspective, the risk associated with early discontinuation of RRT is modest. It is therefore debatable whether the search for strict RRT weaning criteria is justified. In other words, the more relevant clinical question may not be “when to stop RRT” based on a predefined threshold, but rather “whether to continue” on a given day, depending on the patient’s evolving condition and ongoing indication for RRT. In this view, the focus shifts from a binary decision based on fixed criteria to a continuous clinical judgement aiming not only to avoid premature discontinuation, but also to recognize when further RRT sessions are no longer necessary [5].</p><p>Beyond this, the methodological framework chosen by the authors raises additional concerns. The primary endpoint, catheter-free days at day 28, relies on a clinician-driven decision and, while it captures a relevant process of care, it remains a surrogate outcome that does not directly measure total RRT duration, renal recovery, or any patient-centered benefit. Since the authors explicitly aim to define objective criteria for RRT discontinuation, one would have expected a primary outcome more directly linked to renal function or clinical recovery, rather than an indirect and operator-dependent measure. Moreover, in a before–after design, one cannot exclude that the observed differences stemmed in part from increased awareness and procedural vigilance regarding catheter removal in the second period, a form of behavioral shift that commonly arises when a protocol is introduced on a topic perceived as a “hot issue” by the clinical team. The introduction of a formal urinary biomarker–based strategy may have reinforced a shared perception that catheter removal should be actively pursued, thus increasing protocol adherence and shortening time to discontinuation, even independently of the urinary urea excretion index (UUEI) itself. Without objective data on overall RRT use, timing to renal recovery, or complications avoided, it remains uncertain whether the intervention truly impacted patient outcomes or primarily altered procedural momentum.</p><p>The physiological appeal of using urinary urea excretion as a marker of renal recovery is understandable since the ability to concentrate urea reflects tubular function and medullary integrity. However, the evidence supporting the urinary UUEI is thin. The threshold of 1.35 mmol/kg/24 h originates from a small, single-center, retrospective study conducted over a decade ago and involving only 67 patients [6]. This study has not been prospectively validated or replicated. Its findings, while intriguing, cannot serve as a foundation for practice-changing recommendations. While a meta-analysis reports a high AUROC in favor of UUEI (0.96 versus 0.86 for urine output [UO]), this result stems entirely from the original study [2]. This apparent superiority may be misleading: UUEI is calculated by simply multiplying two existing variables: UO and urinary urea concentration. As such, it is not an independent marker, but rather a composite of values already used in clinical practice. Because UO is both a component of UUEI and the main comparator, this mathematical overlap artificially boosts the correlation between the two, making the index seem more predictive than it may actually be. Without external validation, it is unclear whether UUEI truly adds useful clinical information beyond what is already provided by its two individual components. This uncertainty extends to its practical value at the bedside. Indeed, if intensivists observe a UO exceeding 8.5 mL/kg over 24 h (as reported in the initial study [6]), they already have a strong signal of potential renal recovery. Measuring urinary urea, calculating a product, and comparing it to a rigid threshold adds layers of complexity and delay without demonstrable benefit. Urine output, although imperfect, remains an accessible, reproducible, and widely accepted surrogate for renal function recovery which is already used in numerous protocols [7, 8]. If we accept that UO is an acceptable benchmark, and that avoiding unnecessary sessions is a worthwhile goal, then the focus should be on identifying even earlier predictors than UO itself. The goal should not be to confirm recovery that is already evident, but to avoid prolonging RRT when it is no longer useful. The problem is not the absence of strict thresholds but the continuation of RRT by default in patients who may not need it. In this light, indices like UUEI do not solve the problem, they shift it into a different form, with added complexity.</p><p> Finally, the use of a before–after methodology in the field of RRT is debatable. Clinical practice around RRT has changed over the past decade, especially with the publication of major trials advocating for delayed RRT initiation [9]. These changes influence not only when RRT is started, but also which patients are selected, what modalities are used, and how clinicians approach weaning. It is therefore difficult to isolate the effect of a new protocol from these background shifts. The authors acknowledge that in at least one center, catheter withdrawal occurred earlier in the period due to different initiation practices. </p><p>In conclusion, determining the optimal timing for RRT discontinuation and catheter removal is a relevant and practical question for intensivists. However, the methodological limitations of the present study including its before–after design, reliance on an unvalidated index threshold, and the lack of patient-centered outcomes weaken the strength of its conclusions. 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致编辑:我们感谢Bodot等人对急性肾损伤(AKI) bbb危重患者停止肾替代治疗(RRT)这一未被充分讨论的话题所做的努力[10]。该研究解决了一个相关问题,并在其引言中正确地提到了RRT本身可能通过血流动力学不稳定和其他机制导致持续肾损伤的假设。然而,我们认为,从基本原理开始,某些方法和概念方面可以从进一步完善中受益,这可能会增强结论的稳健性,并支持所提出的方法在日常实践中的更广泛适用性。虽然作者没有明确地用这些术语来构建他们的研究,但他们的方法反映了一种日益普遍的趋势,即通过结构化的协议和固定的可变阈值来定义RRT停药,这让人想起机械通气(MV)断奶[2]。然而,MV脱机的过程是至关重要的,因为过早拔管可能导致紧急再插管,并增加死亡率。相比之下,过早停止RRT通常只会导致RRT的恢复(在某些情况下需要重新插入导管),这很少与重大伤害相关。作者认为,过早停止RRT可能导致液体积聚,延迟MV脱机,延长ICU住院时间,并增加死亡率。这一论点没有得到现有文献的令人信服的支持。事实上,新出现的数据表明,在AKI的早期阶段,过度积极的液体清除方法实际上可能会使结果恶化。因此,继续RRT的潜在危害,包括血流动力学不稳定和导管相关并发症,可能超过早期停止的推测性风险。因此,重点应从担心过早停止转向对进一步会议何时真正有益的更细致的评估。从这个角度来看,早期停止RRT的风险是适度的。因此,寻找严格的RRT断奶标准是否合理是有争议的。换句话说,更相关的临床问题可能不是根据预定义的阈值“何时停止RRT”,而是根据患者病情的发展和RRT的持续适应症,在给定的一天“是否继续”。在这种观点下,重点从基于固定标准的二元决策转移到持续的临床判断,不仅要避免过早停止治疗,还要认识到何时不再需要进一步的RRT治疗[10]。除此之外,作者选择的方法框架引起了额外的关注。主要终点是第28天无导管天数,这取决于临床医生的决定,虽然它捕获了相关的护理过程,但它仍然是一个替代结果,不能直接衡量RRT总持续时间、肾脏恢复或任何以患者为中心的益处。由于作者明确的目的是定义RRT停药的客观标准,人们会期望一个与肾功能或临床恢复更直接相关的主要结果,而不是一个间接的和依赖于操作者的措施。此外,在前后设计中,不能排除观察到的差异部分源于第二阶段对导管拔除的意识和程序警惕性的提高,这是一种行为转变的形式,通常出现在临床团队认为是“热点问题”的主题上引入协议时。引入正式的基于尿液生物标志物的策略可能加强了一种共同的观念,即应该积极进行导管拔除,从而增加了方案的依从性并缩短了停药时间,甚至独立于尿尿素排泄指数(UUEI)本身。没有关于RRT总体使用、肾脏恢复时间或避免并发症的客观数据,仍然不确定干预是否真正影响了患者的预后或主要改变了手术势头。用尿尿素排泄作为肾脏恢复标志的生理诉求是可以理解的,因为浓缩尿素的能力反映了肾小管功能和髓质完整性。然而,支持尿液uei的证据很少。1.35 mmol/kg/24 h的阈值来自十多年前进行的一项小型、单中心、回顾性研究,该研究仅涉及67例患者。该研究尚未得到前瞻性验证或重复。它的发现虽然有趣,但不能作为改变实践建议的基础。虽然一项荟萃分析报告较高的AUROC有利于uei (0.96 vs 0.86尿量[UO]),但这一结果完全源于原始研究[2]。这种明显的优势可能会产生误导:uei是通过简单地乘以两个现有变量来计算的:UO和尿尿素浓度。 因此,它不是一个独立的标志物,而是临床实践中已经使用的值的组合。因为UO既是UUEI的一个组成部分,又是主要的比较器,所以这种数学上的重叠人为地增强了两者之间的相关性,使该指数看起来比实际情况更具预测性。在没有外部验证的情况下,不清楚uei是否真的增加了有用的临床信息,而不仅仅是它的两个单独的组件。这种不确定性延伸到它在床边的实用价值。事实上,如果强化者在24小时内观察到UO超过8.5 mL/kg(如最初研究[6]所报道的),他们已经有了肾脏潜在恢复的强烈信号。测量尿尿素,计算产品,并将其与刚性阈值进行比较,增加了复杂性和延迟,而没有明显的好处。尿量虽然不完美,但仍然是一种可获得、可重复且被广泛接受的肾功能恢复指标,已在许多方案中使用[7,8]。如果我们接受UO是一个可接受的基准,并且避免不必要的会话是一个有价值的目标,那么重点就应该放在识别比UO本身更早的预测因素上。目标不应该是确认已经明显的恢复,而是避免在RRT不再有用时延长它。问题不在于缺乏严格的阈值,而在于在可能不需要RRT的患者中默认继续RRT。从这个角度来看,像UUEI这样的指数并不能解决问题,它们将问题转化为另一种形式,增加了复杂性。最后,在RRT领域使用前后方法学是有争议的。在过去的十年中,RRT的临床实践已经发生了变化,特别是随着倡导延迟RRT起始的主要试验的发表[10]。这些变化不仅影响RRT开始的时间,还影响选择哪些患者,使用什么方式,以及临床医生如何处理断奶。因此,很难将新协议的影响从这些背景变化中分离出来。作者承认,至少在一个中心,由于不同的起始做法,导管撤除发生得更早。总之,确定RRT停药和拔管的最佳时机对强化医师来说是一个相关且实际的问题。然而,本研究的方法学局限性,包括其前后设计,依赖于未经验证的指数阈值,以及缺乏以患者为中心的结果,削弱了其结论的强度。虽然作者进行了重要的讨论,但这些限制反对在其原始环境之外采用这种协议。在获得更有力的证据之前,停止RRT应该是一个灵活的、针对患者的决定,以临床判断为基础。在本研究中没有生成或分析数据集。李建军,李建军,李建军,等。尿尿素排泄指数对ICU急性肾损伤患者决定放弃肾替代治疗的影响:一项前后多中心研究(D-STOP)危重护理。2025;29:261。[10]学者Katulka RJ, Al Saadon A, Sebastianski M, Featherstone R, Vandermeer B, Silver SA等。确定危重患者从肾脏替代治疗中解脱的最佳时间:一项系统回顾和荟萃分析(DOnE RRT)。危重症护理。2020;24:50。谷歌学者Epstein SK, Ciubotaru RL, Wong JB。拔管失败对机械通气结果的影响。胸部。1997;112:186 - 92。中科院bbb学者Cattin L, Lassola S, Balzani E, Salinas Rojo M, Marchionna N, Lorenzin A等。液体管理对连续体外支持结果的影响:事后分析血液净化[互联网]。2025[引自2025年7月9日];可从:https://doi.org/10.1159/000545728Chaïbi K, Dreyfuss D, Gaudry S. ICU肾脏替代治疗:从保守到限制性策略。危重护理。2025;29:40。[10]学者anort J, Ait Hssain A, Pereira B, Coupez E, Pioche PA, Leroy C,等。每日尿尿素排泄指导危重患者间歇血液透析脱机。危重症护理,2016;20:43。[10]学者Gaudry S, Hajage D, Schortgen F, Martin-Lefevre L, Pons B, Boulet E,等。重症监护室肾脏替代治疗的启动策略。中华医学杂志,2016;35(5):391 - 391。[10]学者Gaudry S, Hajage D, Martin-Lefevre L, Lebbah S, Louis G, Moschietto S,等。严重急性肾损伤的两种延迟肾替代治疗启动策略的比较(AKIKI 2):一项多中心、开放标签、随机对照试验。《柳叶刀》杂志。2021;397:1293 - 300。第44届重症监护国际学术研讨会急诊医学。急救护理。 从证据到实践:急性肾损伤危重患者肾替代治疗的减少[j] .中华危重医学杂志,2015,29(S1):P058。下载参考资料作者和单位sachement de racimac -chirurgicale, app Hôpital Avicenne,博比尼,法国ekhalil Chaïbi &;st<s:1>和罕见肾脏疾病,索邦大学,INSERM, UMR-S 1155,巴黎,法国ekhalil Chaïbi &;stembroine gaudry调查网络倡议-心血管和肾脏临床试验,博比尼,法国ekhalil Chaïbi &amp;Stephane GaudryAuthorsKhalil ChaibiView作者publicationsSearch作者:PubMed谷歌ScholarStephane GaudryView作者publicationsSearch作者:PubMed谷歌ScholarContributionsKC和SG写的手稿。通讯作者与Khalil的通信Chaïbi。参与者的道德批准和同意不适用。发表同意不适用。支持数据的可用性不适用。利益竞争作者声明没有利益竞争。出版方声明:对于已出版地图的管辖权要求和机构关系,普林格·自然保持中立。开放获取本文遵循知识共享署名-非商业-非衍生品4.0国际许可协议,该协议允许以任何媒介或格式进行非商业用途、共享、分发和复制,只要您适当注明原作者和来源,提供知识共享许可协议的链接,并注明您是否修改了许可材料。根据本许可协议,您无权分享源自本文或其部分内容的改编材料。本文中的图像或其他第三方材料包含在文章的知识共享许可协议中,除非在材料的署名中另有说明。如果材料未包含在文章的知识共享许可中,并且您的预期用途不被法律法规允许或超过允许的用途,您将需要直接获得版权所有者的许可。要查看该许可的副本,请访问http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/.Reprints和permissionsite这个articleChaïbi, K., Gaudry, S.尿尿素排泄指数来指导急性肾损伤患者从肾脏替代治疗中断奶:仍然没有找到我断奶的原因。危重症护理29,326(2025)。https://doi.org/10.1186/s13054-025-05581-7Download citation收稿日期:2025年7月18日接受日期:2025年7月22日发布日期:2025年7月26日doi: https://doi.org/10.1186/s13054-025-05581-7Share本文任何人与您分享以下链接将能够阅读此内容:获取可共享链接对不起,本文目前没有可共享链接。复制到剪贴板由施普林格自然共享内容倡议提供
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Urinary urea excretion index to guide weaning from renal replacement therapy in patients with acute kidney injury: Still haven’t found what i’m weaning for

To the Editor,

We acknowledge the effort by Bodot et al. to explore the under-addressed topic of renal replacement therapy (RRT) discontinuation in critically ill patients with acute kidney injury (AKI) [1]. The study addresses a relevant issue and, in its introduction, rightly refers to the hypothesis that RRT itself may contribute to ongoing kidney injury through hemodynamic instability and other mechanisms. However, we believe that certain methodological and conceptual aspects, beginning with the underlying rationale, could benefit from further refinement, which may enhance the robustness of the conclusions and support broader applicability of the proposed approach in routine practice.

While the authors do not explicitly frame their study in these terms, their approach reflects an increasingly common tendency to define RRT discontinuation through structured protocols and fixed variable thresholds, in a manner reminiscent of mechanical ventilation (MV) weaning [2]. However, the process of MV weaning is critical because premature extubation can result in emergency reintubation, and increased mortality [3]. By contrast, stopping RRT too early typically leads only to the resumption of RRT (with need for catheter reinsertion in some instances) which is rarely associated with significant harm. The authors suggest that stopping RRT too early could result in fluid accumulation, delayed MV weaning, prolonged ICU stays, and increased mortality. This contention is not convincingly supported by the existing literature. In fact, emerging data, suggest that an overly aggressive approach to fluid removal in the early phase of AKI might actually worsen outcomes [4]. Then, the potential harms of RRT continuation, including hemodynamic instability and catheter-related complications, may outweigh the speculative risks of early cessation. The emphasis should therefore shift from the fear of stopping too soon to a more nuanced assessment of when further sessions are truly beneficial. From this perspective, the risk associated with early discontinuation of RRT is modest. It is therefore debatable whether the search for strict RRT weaning criteria is justified. In other words, the more relevant clinical question may not be “when to stop RRT” based on a predefined threshold, but rather “whether to continue” on a given day, depending on the patient’s evolving condition and ongoing indication for RRT. In this view, the focus shifts from a binary decision based on fixed criteria to a continuous clinical judgement aiming not only to avoid premature discontinuation, but also to recognize when further RRT sessions are no longer necessary [5].

Beyond this, the methodological framework chosen by the authors raises additional concerns. The primary endpoint, catheter-free days at day 28, relies on a clinician-driven decision and, while it captures a relevant process of care, it remains a surrogate outcome that does not directly measure total RRT duration, renal recovery, or any patient-centered benefit. Since the authors explicitly aim to define objective criteria for RRT discontinuation, one would have expected a primary outcome more directly linked to renal function or clinical recovery, rather than an indirect and operator-dependent measure. Moreover, in a before–after design, one cannot exclude that the observed differences stemmed in part from increased awareness and procedural vigilance regarding catheter removal in the second period, a form of behavioral shift that commonly arises when a protocol is introduced on a topic perceived as a “hot issue” by the clinical team. The introduction of a formal urinary biomarker–based strategy may have reinforced a shared perception that catheter removal should be actively pursued, thus increasing protocol adherence and shortening time to discontinuation, even independently of the urinary urea excretion index (UUEI) itself. Without objective data on overall RRT use, timing to renal recovery, or complications avoided, it remains uncertain whether the intervention truly impacted patient outcomes or primarily altered procedural momentum.

The physiological appeal of using urinary urea excretion as a marker of renal recovery is understandable since the ability to concentrate urea reflects tubular function and medullary integrity. However, the evidence supporting the urinary UUEI is thin. The threshold of 1.35 mmol/kg/24 h originates from a small, single-center, retrospective study conducted over a decade ago and involving only 67 patients [6]. This study has not been prospectively validated or replicated. Its findings, while intriguing, cannot serve as a foundation for practice-changing recommendations. While a meta-analysis reports a high AUROC in favor of UUEI (0.96 versus 0.86 for urine output [UO]), this result stems entirely from the original study [2]. This apparent superiority may be misleading: UUEI is calculated by simply multiplying two existing variables: UO and urinary urea concentration. As such, it is not an independent marker, but rather a composite of values already used in clinical practice. Because UO is both a component of UUEI and the main comparator, this mathematical overlap artificially boosts the correlation between the two, making the index seem more predictive than it may actually be. Without external validation, it is unclear whether UUEI truly adds useful clinical information beyond what is already provided by its two individual components. This uncertainty extends to its practical value at the bedside. Indeed, if intensivists observe a UO exceeding 8.5 mL/kg over 24 h (as reported in the initial study [6]), they already have a strong signal of potential renal recovery. Measuring urinary urea, calculating a product, and comparing it to a rigid threshold adds layers of complexity and delay without demonstrable benefit. Urine output, although imperfect, remains an accessible, reproducible, and widely accepted surrogate for renal function recovery which is already used in numerous protocols [7, 8]. If we accept that UO is an acceptable benchmark, and that avoiding unnecessary sessions is a worthwhile goal, then the focus should be on identifying even earlier predictors than UO itself. The goal should not be to confirm recovery that is already evident, but to avoid prolonging RRT when it is no longer useful. The problem is not the absence of strict thresholds but the continuation of RRT by default in patients who may not need it. In this light, indices like UUEI do not solve the problem, they shift it into a different form, with added complexity.

Finally, the use of a before–after methodology in the field of RRT is debatable. Clinical practice around RRT has changed over the past decade, especially with the publication of major trials advocating for delayed RRT initiation [9]. These changes influence not only when RRT is started, but also which patients are selected, what modalities are used, and how clinicians approach weaning. It is therefore difficult to isolate the effect of a new protocol from these background shifts. The authors acknowledge that in at least one center, catheter withdrawal occurred earlier in the period due to different initiation practices.

In conclusion, determining the optimal timing for RRT discontinuation and catheter removal is a relevant and practical question for intensivists. However, the methodological limitations of the present study including its before–after design, reliance on an unvalidated index threshold, and the lack of patient-centered outcomes weaken the strength of its conclusions. While the authors contribute to an important discussion, these limitations argue against adopting such a protocol beyond its original context. Until more robust evidence is available, the discontinuation of RRT should remain a flexible, patient-specific decision, grounded in clinical judgment.

No datasets were generated or analysed during the current study.

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  1. Département de réanimation médico-chirurgicale, APHP Hôpital Avicenne, Bobigny, France

    Khalil Chaïbi & Stéphane Gaudry

  2. Common and Rare Kidney Diseases, Sorbonne Université, INSERM, UMR-S 1155, Paris, France

    Khalil Chaïbi & Stéphane Gaudry

  3. Investigation Network Initiative–Cardiovascular and Renal Clinical Trialists, Bobigny, France

    Khalil Chaïbi & Stéphane Gaudry

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Chaïbi, K., Gaudry, S. Urinary urea excretion index to guide weaning from renal replacement therapy in patients with acute kidney injury: Still haven’t found what i’m weaning for. Crit Care 29, 326 (2025). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13054-025-05581-7

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Critical Care 医学-危重病医学
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