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The Chebotarev invariant for direct products of nonabelian finite simple groups
A subset $\{g_1, \ldots , g_d\}$ of a finite group $G$ invariably generates
$G$ if $\{g_1^{x_1}, \ldots , g_d^{x_d}\}$ generates $G$ for every choice of
$x_i \in G$. The Chebotarev invariant $C(G)$ of $G$ is the expected value of
the random variable $n$ that is minimal subject to the requirement that $n$
randomly chosen elements of $G$ invariably generate $G$. In this paper, we show
that if $G$ is a nonabelian finite simple group, then $C(G)$ is absolutely
bounded. More generally, we show that if $G$ is a direct product of $k$
nonabelian finite simple groups, then $C(G)=\log{k}/\log{\alpha(G)}+O(1)$,
where $\alpha$ is an invariant completely determined by the proportion of
derangements of the primitive permutation actions of the factors in $G$. It
follows from the proof of the Boston-Shalev conjecture that $C(G)=O(\log{k})$.
We also derive sharp bounds on the expected number of generators for $G$.