柏拉图的《政治家:哲学讨论

IF 2.8 1区 哲学 0 PHILOSOPHY
Chris Bobonich
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There is a lengthy and substantive introduction, to which each editor contributes a section. Although the chapters are more discursive than, for example, the typical Clarendon commentary, each remains tightly focused on the set passage. Given the space available to me, I discuss only two essays. The topics covered in the other chapters range over Plato’s epistemology, ethics, metaphysics, methodology, political philosophy, and psychology.In his fine chapter on Statesman 297B5-303D3 (hereafter, Stephanus numbers without titles refer to the Statesman), Christoph Horn tackles one of the dialogue’s most difficult passages and one of the most difficult issues in Plato’s political philosophy, that is, the topic of changing the laws. The central question that Horn addresses is whether Plato thinks that the legal structures of cities without philosophical rulers are equally worthless or whether he allows at least some genuine value to the legal structures of those cities that (a) have constitutions preserving the actual written instructions left by a knowledgeable lawgiver, or (b) forbid ever changing the legal order, regardless of its quality, or (c) improve their laws by revising them through informed true opinion (177, 186–91). Horn argues that legal structures satisfying one of (a), (b), or (c) have some genuine value.1(c) has the most important implications for Plato’s political philosophy, and Horn makes an excellent case for it. I would add two points as friendly suggestions. First, we might ask what Plato would have to believe if he held that the legal structures of nonphilosophical cities are equally worthless. It seems that he would have to hold that at no point in a city’s history is it possible (i) for an individual or a group to believe justifiably, but fallibly, that a particular legal change would produce a better outcome, and (ii) to bring about such change without its consequences producing a worse outcome. Since some cities’ laws may be deeply unjust, it seems hard to deny (i). Bad laws may foster worse desires in citizens, and Plato thinks that satisfying such desires makes them both stronger and worse. But it is hard to believe that this justifies denying (i). What about denying (ii)? Plato tends to think that changing the laws leads to further legal changes and that the resulting instability would produce worse outcomes. But even if denying (ii) is less implausible than denying (i), it is still an implausible denial.Horn rightly admits that much in 297B5-303D3 suggests the no change interpretation but does not explain this. Considering the Republic and the Laws may help. Horn remarks that ‘as is well known, the topic of law and legislation is almost absent in the Republic’ (177). But as Julia Annas has, I think, conclusively demonstrated the Republic contains much about legislation and Kallipolis has many laws (Annas 2020: 9–31). Further, both the Republic and the Laws contain passages prima facie suggesting that significant legal change is nearly impossible (Republic 4.445DE, 5.458BC; Laws 6.772AD).2 In the Republic, this seems difficult to explain except as rhetorical exaggeration, since Socrates and his interlocutors set Kallipolis’ laws but, unlike Kallipolis’ philosopher-rulers, lack knowledge of the Form of the Good (Republic 2.378E-379A, 6.506BC).Horn rightly holds that the Laws allows for indefinitely revising and improving Magnesia’s laws, but he oddly claims that it holds that laws are appropriate if they aim either at virtue or a part of it (187). But the passage cited clearly requires laws to aim at all of virtue, not just a part of it (Laws 4.705D-706A). Without seeing this, we cannot explain the Laws’ criticism of Crete and Sparta (1.630D-631D) or the Statesman’s excluding from citizenship those not sharing in all the virtues (308E-310A). The Statesman thus resembles the Republic and the Laws in overstating the case against legal change.In perhaps the volume’s most innovative and philosophically stimulating essay, Rachana Kamtekar examines 305E8-308B9 and Plato’s account of courage and moderation. She suggests understanding courage and moderation in terms of the contemporary distinction between thick and thin concepts. This a subtle idea deserving more exploration. But it raises some concerns.3Kamtekar thinks that Plato holds that we can disentangle the descriptive and evaluative components of, for example, ‘courageous’ so that its meaning is given by C (221):‘Quick’ is purely descriptive, but ‘fine’ and ‘appropriate’ are evaluative. (More precisely, Kamtekar thinks that this is the meaning of ‘courageous’ from 306A12-307D4.)A’s degree of quickness in S is thus necessary for A’s being courageous in S. Is it sufficient? This is suggested by Kamtekar’s claim that satisfying the descriptive component is ‘a way’ of being, for example, fine (223). Plato would reject this however, since A might be wrongly motivated. So Kamtekar should deny A’s sufficiency. Because the evaluative components hold of A, it is a fine action, but these evaluative components are thin concepts and so do not convey information about the motivation.4 It is thus not Plato’s typical sort of an account of a virtue (cf. Protagoras 330A-332B, Republic 4.443C-444E, and Laws 9.863E-864B; this at least approximates virtuous action).But Kamtekar thinks that these accounts of the courageous and the moderate are produced by dividing the fine into, respectively, the quick-and-fine and the slow-and-fine (221). These are real definitions since division is Plato’s method for reaching real definitions. This suggestion, however, faces concerns. First, 306C-307C does not talk of ‘dividing’ the fine. Second, Kamtekar seems to intend this division to be exhaustive (221). This is reasonable since Plato, although he does not think it necessary, emphasizes his clear preference for dichotomous division (Phaedrus 265E-266B; Philebus 16CD; Statesman. 262A-263B). But the courageous and the moderate cannot exhaust all fine items. Yet if it is not dichotomous, the other divisions remain mysterious. Third, just actions must be included in the fine, and, since Plato uses ‘just’ equivalently with ‘virtuous’, just actions must occur within both of what Kamtekar agrees are mutually exclusive divisions of the fine, the courageous and the moderate (219). Fourth, and most worrisome, is that because quick and slow are opposites, Kamtekar thinks that whenever a certain degree of slowness is fine and appropriate, the item is properly called ‘moderate’ and not ‘courageous’ and vice versa (219).5 But this produces unacceptable results. Surely Socrates’s slow retreat at Delium was courageous, and it is highly misleading to call it ‘moderate.’ One might reply that this objection relies on too simple a notion of ‘quick’ and ‘slow’ and that these are inherently evaluative. This reply’s cost is giving up the thick and thin distinction.Kamtekar’s most novel claim is that the courageous and moderate at 306A12-307D6 are ‘kinds’ of ‘actual or true virtue’ (222) and not merely ingredients of it. Kamtekar here places great weight on 306C’s claim that their investigation is among things ‘we’ call fine. Kamtekar thinks this gives us reason to reject the traditional interpretation that the courage and moderation mentioned at 306A12-309A7 are or include natural psychic dispositions that are not genuine virtues, but only become virtues when knowledge or ‘secure true opinion’ is added to them (309D7-310A6). But who are ‘we’?Kamtekar argues that courageous and moderate as used in 306A12-307D6 are instances of ‘ordinary language’ and practice and that ‘it would be a substantial, and … false assumption about ordinary language that we call cases of quickness etc. “courageous” because they are potentially courageous’ (222). I agree that collection often starts from our ordinary classifications. But that is why we often need to correct them (262C-263E). For the courage and moderation discussed at 306A12-307D6 to be potential and not full virtues, it is not necessary that ordinary speakers think that they are only potential virtues. All that is required is that what they believe are real virtues are, in fact, only potential virtues. It would, I think, hardly be surprising for Plato to think that ordinary speakers typically seriously misunderstand virtue often by thinking of it as having some close relation to action types. Finally, for Plato to shift from talking of the courageous and the moderate as true parts of virtue to speaking of the courageous and the moderate as people with two different types of defective characters (after 306A12) is a confusingly abrupt volte-face that conflicts with the natural Platonic assumption that possessing the feature common to courageous items is what makes one courageous. The Eleatic Stranger seems to say as much at 309B6-9.I hope that my discussion of these two excellent articles manages to convey, at least to some small degree, how philosophically rich and simulating this volume is.6","PeriodicalId":48129,"journal":{"name":"PHILOSOPHICAL REVIEW","volume":"65 1","pages":"0"},"PeriodicalIF":2.8000,"publicationDate":"2023-04-01","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":"{\"title\":\"<i>Plato’s Statesman: A Philosophical Discussion</i>\",\"authors\":\"Chris Bobonich\",\"doi\":\"10.1215/00318108-10294435\",\"DOIUrl\":null,\"url\":null,\"abstract\":\"In her introduction to a translation of the Statesman, Julia Annas remarks that as ‘stimulating as Plato’s political ideas in the Statesman are, it is not surprising that the dialogue has been relatively neglected by comparison with the Republic and the Laws’ (Annas and Waterfield 1995: x). A glance at Dimas et al.’s bibliography shows that the situation has improved since then, although the Statesman remains underdiscussed. Thus, the current volume is very welcome.The dialogue is divided into eleven passages running consecutively from its beginning with a chapter devoted to each. In addition to the editors, the contributors are Rachel Barney, Gábor Betegh, David Bronstein, Amber Carpenter, Christoph Horn, Rachana Kamtekar, Gavin Lawrence, Fabián Mié, and Franco Trivigno. Melissa Lane also writes a chapter. There is a lengthy and substantive introduction, to which each editor contributes a section. Although the chapters are more discursive than, for example, the typical Clarendon commentary, each remains tightly focused on the set passage. Given the space available to me, I discuss only two essays. The topics covered in the other chapters range over Plato’s epistemology, ethics, metaphysics, methodology, political philosophy, and psychology.In his fine chapter on Statesman 297B5-303D3 (hereafter, Stephanus numbers without titles refer to the Statesman), Christoph Horn tackles one of the dialogue’s most difficult passages and one of the most difficult issues in Plato’s political philosophy, that is, the topic of changing the laws. The central question that Horn addresses is whether Plato thinks that the legal structures of cities without philosophical rulers are equally worthless or whether he allows at least some genuine value to the legal structures of those cities that (a) have constitutions preserving the actual written instructions left by a knowledgeable lawgiver, or (b) forbid ever changing the legal order, regardless of its quality, or (c) improve their laws by revising them through informed true opinion (177, 186–91). Horn argues that legal structures satisfying one of (a), (b), or (c) have some genuine value.1(c) has the most important implications for Plato’s political philosophy, and Horn makes an excellent case for it. I would add two points as friendly suggestions. First, we might ask what Plato would have to believe if he held that the legal structures of nonphilosophical cities are equally worthless. It seems that he would have to hold that at no point in a city’s history is it possible (i) for an individual or a group to believe justifiably, but fallibly, that a particular legal change would produce a better outcome, and (ii) to bring about such change without its consequences producing a worse outcome. Since some cities’ laws may be deeply unjust, it seems hard to deny (i). Bad laws may foster worse desires in citizens, and Plato thinks that satisfying such desires makes them both stronger and worse. But it is hard to believe that this justifies denying (i). What about denying (ii)? Plato tends to think that changing the laws leads to further legal changes and that the resulting instability would produce worse outcomes. But even if denying (ii) is less implausible than denying (i), it is still an implausible denial.Horn rightly admits that much in 297B5-303D3 suggests the no change interpretation but does not explain this. Considering the Republic and the Laws may help. Horn remarks that ‘as is well known, the topic of law and legislation is almost absent in the Republic’ (177). But as Julia Annas has, I think, conclusively demonstrated the Republic contains much about legislation and Kallipolis has many laws (Annas 2020: 9–31). Further, both the Republic and the Laws contain passages prima facie suggesting that significant legal change is nearly impossible (Republic 4.445DE, 5.458BC; Laws 6.772AD).2 In the Republic, this seems difficult to explain except as rhetorical exaggeration, since Socrates and his interlocutors set Kallipolis’ laws but, unlike Kallipolis’ philosopher-rulers, lack knowledge of the Form of the Good (Republic 2.378E-379A, 6.506BC).Horn rightly holds that the Laws allows for indefinitely revising and improving Magnesia’s laws, but he oddly claims that it holds that laws are appropriate if they aim either at virtue or a part of it (187). But the passage cited clearly requires laws to aim at all of virtue, not just a part of it (Laws 4.705D-706A). Without seeing this, we cannot explain the Laws’ criticism of Crete and Sparta (1.630D-631D) or the Statesman’s excluding from citizenship those not sharing in all the virtues (308E-310A). The Statesman thus resembles the Republic and the Laws in overstating the case against legal change.In perhaps the volume’s most innovative and philosophically stimulating essay, Rachana Kamtekar examines 305E8-308B9 and Plato’s account of courage and moderation. She suggests understanding courage and moderation in terms of the contemporary distinction between thick and thin concepts. This a subtle idea deserving more exploration. But it raises some concerns.3Kamtekar thinks that Plato holds that we can disentangle the descriptive and evaluative components of, for example, ‘courageous’ so that its meaning is given by C (221):‘Quick’ is purely descriptive, but ‘fine’ and ‘appropriate’ are evaluative. (More precisely, Kamtekar thinks that this is the meaning of ‘courageous’ from 306A12-307D4.)A’s degree of quickness in S is thus necessary for A’s being courageous in S. Is it sufficient? This is suggested by Kamtekar’s claim that satisfying the descriptive component is ‘a way’ of being, for example, fine (223). Plato would reject this however, since A might be wrongly motivated. So Kamtekar should deny A’s sufficiency. Because the evaluative components hold of A, it is a fine action, but these evaluative components are thin concepts and so do not convey information about the motivation.4 It is thus not Plato’s typical sort of an account of a virtue (cf. Protagoras 330A-332B, Republic 4.443C-444E, and Laws 9.863E-864B; this at least approximates virtuous action).But Kamtekar thinks that these accounts of the courageous and the moderate are produced by dividing the fine into, respectively, the quick-and-fine and the slow-and-fine (221). These are real definitions since division is Plato’s method for reaching real definitions. This suggestion, however, faces concerns. First, 306C-307C does not talk of ‘dividing’ the fine. Second, Kamtekar seems to intend this division to be exhaustive (221). This is reasonable since Plato, although he does not think it necessary, emphasizes his clear preference for dichotomous division (Phaedrus 265E-266B; Philebus 16CD; Statesman. 262A-263B). But the courageous and the moderate cannot exhaust all fine items. Yet if it is not dichotomous, the other divisions remain mysterious. Third, just actions must be included in the fine, and, since Plato uses ‘just’ equivalently with ‘virtuous’, just actions must occur within both of what Kamtekar agrees are mutually exclusive divisions of the fine, the courageous and the moderate (219). Fourth, and most worrisome, is that because quick and slow are opposites, Kamtekar thinks that whenever a certain degree of slowness is fine and appropriate, the item is properly called ‘moderate’ and not ‘courageous’ and vice versa (219).5 But this produces unacceptable results. Surely Socrates’s slow retreat at Delium was courageous, and it is highly misleading to call it ‘moderate.’ One might reply that this objection relies on too simple a notion of ‘quick’ and ‘slow’ and that these are inherently evaluative. This reply’s cost is giving up the thick and thin distinction.Kamtekar’s most novel claim is that the courageous and moderate at 306A12-307D6 are ‘kinds’ of ‘actual or true virtue’ (222) and not merely ingredients of it. Kamtekar here places great weight on 306C’s claim that their investigation is among things ‘we’ call fine. Kamtekar thinks this gives us reason to reject the traditional interpretation that the courage and moderation mentioned at 306A12-309A7 are or include natural psychic dispositions that are not genuine virtues, but only become virtues when knowledge or ‘secure true opinion’ is added to them (309D7-310A6). But who are ‘we’?Kamtekar argues that courageous and moderate as used in 306A12-307D6 are instances of ‘ordinary language’ and practice and that ‘it would be a substantial, and … false assumption about ordinary language that we call cases of quickness etc. “courageous” because they are potentially courageous’ (222). I agree that collection often starts from our ordinary classifications. But that is why we often need to correct them (262C-263E). For the courage and moderation discussed at 306A12-307D6 to be potential and not full virtues, it is not necessary that ordinary speakers think that they are only potential virtues. All that is required is that what they believe are real virtues are, in fact, only potential virtues. It would, I think, hardly be surprising for Plato to think that ordinary speakers typically seriously misunderstand virtue often by thinking of it as having some close relation to action types. Finally, for Plato to shift from talking of the courageous and the moderate as true parts of virtue to speaking of the courageous and the moderate as people with two different types of defective characters (after 306A12) is a confusingly abrupt volte-face that conflicts with the natural Platonic assumption that possessing the feature common to courageous items is what makes one courageous. 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Julia Annas在《政治家》翻译的导言中评论道,“尽管柏拉图在《政治家》中的政治思想令人振奋,但与《理想国与法律》相比,柏拉图的对话相对被忽视也就不足为奇了”(Annas and Waterfield 1995: x)。看一下Dimas等人的参考书目就会发现,自那以后,情况有所改善,尽管《政治家》仍未得到充分讨论。因此,目前的交易量是非常受欢迎的。对话分为11个段落,从开头开始连续运行,每个段落都有一章专门介绍。除编辑外,撰稿人还有Rachel Barney, Gábor Betegh, David Bronstein, Amber Carpenter, Christoph Horn, Rachana Kamtekar, Gavin Lawrence, Fabián mi<e:1>和Franco Trivigno。梅丽莎·莱恩也写了一章。有一个冗长而实质性的介绍,每个编辑贡献了一个部分。尽管这些章节比典型的克拉伦登注释更具论述性,但每一章都紧紧围绕着既定的段落。由于篇幅有限,我只讨论两篇文章。在其他章节涵盖的主题范围超过柏拉图的认识论,伦理学,形而上学,方法论,政治哲学和心理学。在他关于政治家297B5-303D3的精彩章节中(以下,Stephanus编号没有标题,指的是政治家),Christoph Horn处理了对话中最困难的段落之一,也是柏拉图政治哲学中最困难的问题之一,即改变法律的话题。霍恩提出的核心问题是,柏拉图是否认为没有哲学统治者的城市的法律结构同样毫无价值,或者他是否认为这些城市的法律结构至少有一些真正的价值,这些城市(a)有宪法,保留了知识渊博的立法者留下的实际书面指示,或者(b)禁止改变法律秩序,无论其质量如何,或者(c)通过明智的真实意见修改法律来改善法律(177,186 - 91)。霍恩认为,满足(a)、(b)或(c)之一的法律结构具有一些真正的价值。(c)对柏拉图的政治哲学具有最重要的含义,霍恩为此提出了一个极好的例子。作为友好的建议,我想补充两点。首先,我们可能会问,如果柏拉图认为非哲学城市的法律结构同样毫无价值,他必须相信什么。他似乎不得不认为,在一个城市的历史上,任何时候都不可能(1)个人或群体有理由(但有错误)相信某一特定的法律变革会产生更好的结果,以及(2)带来这样的变革而不会产生更糟糕的结果。由于一些城市的法律可能是非常不公正的,似乎很难否认(1)。坏的法律可能会在公民中培养更坏的欲望,柏拉图认为满足这些欲望会使他们更强更坏。但我们很难相信,这就能成为否认第一点的理由。那么否认第二点呢?柏拉图倾向于认为,改变法律会导致进一步的法律变化,而由此产生的不稳定会产生更糟糕的结果。但是,即使否认(ii)比否认(i)不那么令人难以置信,它仍然是一个令人难以置信的否认。霍恩正确地承认,297B5-303D3中的许多内容暗示了“不变”的解释,但没有解释这一点。考虑一下共和国和法律可能会有帮助。霍恩评论说,“众所周知,法律和立法的话题在《理想国》中几乎是不存在的”(177)。但正如Julia Annas所说,我认为,最终证明了共和国包含了很多关于立法的内容,而Kallipolis有很多法律(Annas 2020: 9-31)。此外,《理想国》和《法律》都包含了一些初步表明重大的法律变革几乎是不可能的段落(《理想国》4.445DE, 5.458BC;法律6.772广告)。2在《理想国》中,这似乎很难解释,除非是修辞上的夸张,因为苏格拉底和他的对话者制定了卡利波利斯的法律,但与卡利波利斯的哲学家统治者不同,他们缺乏善的形式的知识(《理想国》2.378E-379A,公元前6.506)。霍恩正确地认为,法律允许无限期地修改和完善镁国的法律,但他奇怪地声称,如果法律的目标是美德或美德的一部分,那么法律是适当的(187)。但引用的这段话明确要求法律针对所有美德,而不仅仅是其中的一部分(法律4.705D-706A)。如果没有看到这一点,我们就无法解释《法律》对克里特和斯巴达的批评(1630 -631 - d)或《政治家》将那些不具备所有美德的人排除在公民权之外(308E-310A)。因此,《政治家》类似于《共和国与法律》,夸大了反对法律变革的理由。在这本书中,也许是最具创新性和哲学刺激的文章中,Rachana Kamtekar研究了305E8-308B9和柏拉图对勇气和节制的描述。 她建议从当代“厚”与“薄”概念的区别来理解勇气与节制。这是一个微妙的想法,值得更多的探索。但这也引发了一些担忧。卡姆特卡尔认为,柏拉图认为,我们可以把“勇敢”这个词的描述性和评价性成分分开,例如,“勇敢”这个词的意义就由C(221)给出:“快速”纯粹是描述性的,而“优良”和“适当”则是评价性的。(更准确地说,Kamtekar认为这是306A12-307D4中“勇敢”的意思。)因此,A在S中的敏捷程度是A在S中的勇敢所必需的,这足够吗?Kamtekar声称满足描述性成分是存在的“一种方式”,例如,fine(223)。然而柏拉图会拒绝这种说法,因为A可能被错误地激发了。所以Kamtekar应该否定A的充分性。因为评价成分持有A,这是一个很好的动作,但这些评价成分是薄的概念,因此不能传达有关动机的信息因此,它不是柏拉图对美德的典型描述(参见普罗塔哥拉330A-332B,《理想国》4.443C-444E,《律法》9.863E-864B;这至少近似于良性行为)。但是Kamtekar认为,这些关于勇敢和温和的描述是通过将美好分别分为快速而美好和缓慢而美好而产生的(221)。这些是真正的定义,因为除法是柏拉图获得真正定义的方法。然而,这一建议面临着一些担忧。首先,306C-307C没有谈到“分割”罚款。第二,Kamtekar似乎打算把这种划分详尽无遗(221)。这是合理的,因为柏拉图,虽然他不认为这是必要的,强调他明确倾向于二分法(费德鲁斯265E-266B;Philebus 16 cd;政治家。262 - 263 b)。但勇敢和温和的人不能穷尽一切美好的事物。然而,如果它不是二分法,其他的划分仍然是神秘的。第三,正义的行为必须包含在善良中,而且,由于柏拉图将“正义”等同于“美德”,正义的行为必须发生在卡姆特卡尔同意的善良,勇敢和温和的相互排斥的划分中(219)。第四,也是最令人担忧的是,因为快和慢是对立的,Kamtekar认为,只要某种程度的慢是好的和适当的,这个项目就应该被称为“适度”,而不是“勇敢”,反之亦然(219)但这产生了不可接受的结果。当然,苏格拉底在Delium的缓慢撤退是勇敢的,称之为“温和”是极具误导性的。有人可能会回答说,这种反对意见过于简单地依赖于“快”和“慢”的概念,而这些概念本质上是可评估的。这个答复的代价是放弃了粗细的区分。Kamtekar最新颖的主张是,306A12-307D6中的勇敢和温和是“实际或真正的美德”的“种类”(222),而不仅仅是美德的组成部分。卡姆特卡尔在这里强调了306C的说法,即他们的调查是“我们”称之为好的事情之一。Kamtekar认为这让我们有理由拒绝传统的解释,即306A12-309A7中提到的勇气和节制是或包括自然的心理倾向,而不是真正的美德,但只有在知识或“可靠的真实意见”被添加进去时才成为美德(309D7-310A6)。但“我们”是谁?Kamtekar认为,306A12-307D6中使用的勇敢和温和是“普通语言”和实践的实例,“如果我们把敏捷等例子称为“勇敢”,因为它们可能是勇敢的,那将是一个实质性的、错误的关于普通语言的假设”(222)。我同意收集通常是从我们的普通分类开始的。但这就是为什么我们经常需要纠正它们(262C-263E)。306A12-307D6讨论的勇气和节制是潜在的而不是完全的美德,普通的演讲者不必认为它们只是潜在的美德。所需要的是,他们所认为的真正的美德,实际上只是潜在的美德。我认为,柏拉图认为,普通的讲话者通常会严重误解美德,认为它与行为类型有密切关系,这并不奇怪。最后,对于柏拉图来说,从把勇敢和温和作为美德的真正组成部分,到把勇敢和温和作为两种不同类型的缺陷性格的人(在306A12之后),这是一个令人困惑的突然转变,与柏拉图的自然假设相冲突,即拥有勇敢事物的共同特征是使人勇敢的因素。《伊利亚特的陌生人》在309B6-9页似乎也这么说。我希望我对这两篇优秀文章的讨论,至少在某种程度上,能够传达出这本书在哲学上是多么的丰富和模拟
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Plato’s Statesman: A Philosophical Discussion
In her introduction to a translation of the Statesman, Julia Annas remarks that as ‘stimulating as Plato’s political ideas in the Statesman are, it is not surprising that the dialogue has been relatively neglected by comparison with the Republic and the Laws’ (Annas and Waterfield 1995: x). A glance at Dimas et al.’s bibliography shows that the situation has improved since then, although the Statesman remains underdiscussed. Thus, the current volume is very welcome.The dialogue is divided into eleven passages running consecutively from its beginning with a chapter devoted to each. In addition to the editors, the contributors are Rachel Barney, Gábor Betegh, David Bronstein, Amber Carpenter, Christoph Horn, Rachana Kamtekar, Gavin Lawrence, Fabián Mié, and Franco Trivigno. Melissa Lane also writes a chapter. There is a lengthy and substantive introduction, to which each editor contributes a section. Although the chapters are more discursive than, for example, the typical Clarendon commentary, each remains tightly focused on the set passage. Given the space available to me, I discuss only two essays. The topics covered in the other chapters range over Plato’s epistemology, ethics, metaphysics, methodology, political philosophy, and psychology.In his fine chapter on Statesman 297B5-303D3 (hereafter, Stephanus numbers without titles refer to the Statesman), Christoph Horn tackles one of the dialogue’s most difficult passages and one of the most difficult issues in Plato’s political philosophy, that is, the topic of changing the laws. The central question that Horn addresses is whether Plato thinks that the legal structures of cities without philosophical rulers are equally worthless or whether he allows at least some genuine value to the legal structures of those cities that (a) have constitutions preserving the actual written instructions left by a knowledgeable lawgiver, or (b) forbid ever changing the legal order, regardless of its quality, or (c) improve their laws by revising them through informed true opinion (177, 186–91). Horn argues that legal structures satisfying one of (a), (b), or (c) have some genuine value.1(c) has the most important implications for Plato’s political philosophy, and Horn makes an excellent case for it. I would add two points as friendly suggestions. First, we might ask what Plato would have to believe if he held that the legal structures of nonphilosophical cities are equally worthless. It seems that he would have to hold that at no point in a city’s history is it possible (i) for an individual or a group to believe justifiably, but fallibly, that a particular legal change would produce a better outcome, and (ii) to bring about such change without its consequences producing a worse outcome. Since some cities’ laws may be deeply unjust, it seems hard to deny (i). Bad laws may foster worse desires in citizens, and Plato thinks that satisfying such desires makes them both stronger and worse. But it is hard to believe that this justifies denying (i). What about denying (ii)? Plato tends to think that changing the laws leads to further legal changes and that the resulting instability would produce worse outcomes. But even if denying (ii) is less implausible than denying (i), it is still an implausible denial.Horn rightly admits that much in 297B5-303D3 suggests the no change interpretation but does not explain this. Considering the Republic and the Laws may help. Horn remarks that ‘as is well known, the topic of law and legislation is almost absent in the Republic’ (177). But as Julia Annas has, I think, conclusively demonstrated the Republic contains much about legislation and Kallipolis has many laws (Annas 2020: 9–31). Further, both the Republic and the Laws contain passages prima facie suggesting that significant legal change is nearly impossible (Republic 4.445DE, 5.458BC; Laws 6.772AD).2 In the Republic, this seems difficult to explain except as rhetorical exaggeration, since Socrates and his interlocutors set Kallipolis’ laws but, unlike Kallipolis’ philosopher-rulers, lack knowledge of the Form of the Good (Republic 2.378E-379A, 6.506BC).Horn rightly holds that the Laws allows for indefinitely revising and improving Magnesia’s laws, but he oddly claims that it holds that laws are appropriate if they aim either at virtue or a part of it (187). But the passage cited clearly requires laws to aim at all of virtue, not just a part of it (Laws 4.705D-706A). Without seeing this, we cannot explain the Laws’ criticism of Crete and Sparta (1.630D-631D) or the Statesman’s excluding from citizenship those not sharing in all the virtues (308E-310A). The Statesman thus resembles the Republic and the Laws in overstating the case against legal change.In perhaps the volume’s most innovative and philosophically stimulating essay, Rachana Kamtekar examines 305E8-308B9 and Plato’s account of courage and moderation. She suggests understanding courage and moderation in terms of the contemporary distinction between thick and thin concepts. This a subtle idea deserving more exploration. But it raises some concerns.3Kamtekar thinks that Plato holds that we can disentangle the descriptive and evaluative components of, for example, ‘courageous’ so that its meaning is given by C (221):‘Quick’ is purely descriptive, but ‘fine’ and ‘appropriate’ are evaluative. (More precisely, Kamtekar thinks that this is the meaning of ‘courageous’ from 306A12-307D4.)A’s degree of quickness in S is thus necessary for A’s being courageous in S. Is it sufficient? This is suggested by Kamtekar’s claim that satisfying the descriptive component is ‘a way’ of being, for example, fine (223). Plato would reject this however, since A might be wrongly motivated. So Kamtekar should deny A’s sufficiency. Because the evaluative components hold of A, it is a fine action, but these evaluative components are thin concepts and so do not convey information about the motivation.4 It is thus not Plato’s typical sort of an account of a virtue (cf. Protagoras 330A-332B, Republic 4.443C-444E, and Laws 9.863E-864B; this at least approximates virtuous action).But Kamtekar thinks that these accounts of the courageous and the moderate are produced by dividing the fine into, respectively, the quick-and-fine and the slow-and-fine (221). These are real definitions since division is Plato’s method for reaching real definitions. This suggestion, however, faces concerns. First, 306C-307C does not talk of ‘dividing’ the fine. Second, Kamtekar seems to intend this division to be exhaustive (221). This is reasonable since Plato, although he does not think it necessary, emphasizes his clear preference for dichotomous division (Phaedrus 265E-266B; Philebus 16CD; Statesman. 262A-263B). But the courageous and the moderate cannot exhaust all fine items. Yet if it is not dichotomous, the other divisions remain mysterious. Third, just actions must be included in the fine, and, since Plato uses ‘just’ equivalently with ‘virtuous’, just actions must occur within both of what Kamtekar agrees are mutually exclusive divisions of the fine, the courageous and the moderate (219). Fourth, and most worrisome, is that because quick and slow are opposites, Kamtekar thinks that whenever a certain degree of slowness is fine and appropriate, the item is properly called ‘moderate’ and not ‘courageous’ and vice versa (219).5 But this produces unacceptable results. Surely Socrates’s slow retreat at Delium was courageous, and it is highly misleading to call it ‘moderate.’ One might reply that this objection relies on too simple a notion of ‘quick’ and ‘slow’ and that these are inherently evaluative. This reply’s cost is giving up the thick and thin distinction.Kamtekar’s most novel claim is that the courageous and moderate at 306A12-307D6 are ‘kinds’ of ‘actual or true virtue’ (222) and not merely ingredients of it. Kamtekar here places great weight on 306C’s claim that their investigation is among things ‘we’ call fine. Kamtekar thinks this gives us reason to reject the traditional interpretation that the courage and moderation mentioned at 306A12-309A7 are or include natural psychic dispositions that are not genuine virtues, but only become virtues when knowledge or ‘secure true opinion’ is added to them (309D7-310A6). But who are ‘we’?Kamtekar argues that courageous and moderate as used in 306A12-307D6 are instances of ‘ordinary language’ and practice and that ‘it would be a substantial, and … false assumption about ordinary language that we call cases of quickness etc. “courageous” because they are potentially courageous’ (222). I agree that collection often starts from our ordinary classifications. But that is why we often need to correct them (262C-263E). For the courage and moderation discussed at 306A12-307D6 to be potential and not full virtues, it is not necessary that ordinary speakers think that they are only potential virtues. All that is required is that what they believe are real virtues are, in fact, only potential virtues. It would, I think, hardly be surprising for Plato to think that ordinary speakers typically seriously misunderstand virtue often by thinking of it as having some close relation to action types. Finally, for Plato to shift from talking of the courageous and the moderate as true parts of virtue to speaking of the courageous and the moderate as people with two different types of defective characters (after 306A12) is a confusingly abrupt volte-face that conflicts with the natural Platonic assumption that possessing the feature common to courageous items is what makes one courageous. The Eleatic Stranger seems to say as much at 309B6-9.I hope that my discussion of these two excellent articles manages to convey, at least to some small degree, how philosophically rich and simulating this volume is.6
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