{"title":"自我构成的极限","authors":"James Phillips","doi":"10.1353/ppp.2023.a908269","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"The Limits of Self-Constitution James Phillips, MD (bio) I am in general agreement with the authors that a psychoanalytic or psychodynamic approach is a good response to simple pruning procedures. That said, however, I do have questions about how they develop their argument. I was surprised at the very notion of pruning, and quite surprised that it is as popular as the authors suggest. The idea that Pete should deal with his inappropriate outbursts by erasing or pruning that aspect of his personality seems so ridiculous that it beggars belief. It leaves one wondering whether Pete, or anyone agreeing with this argument, is credulous enough to think you can just prune away an undesirable part of yourself. The authors write: Importantly, this expulsion is often thought to be a good thing not simply because the undesirable elements are morally wanting but because in some important sense, they are not really a part of the agent proper. This point many seem extravagantly wishful, but is intuitively plausible. Really, “intuitively plausible” that personality traits are not part of the agent? I can understand that the agent may not grasp his or her involvement in the undesirable trait, but to argue that the trait is in reality not part of agent is a very odd claim on the part of the authors. When the authors write that “It would be difficult to exaggerate the prominence of the pruning view of agential self-constitution in philosophy,” they are strongly connecting the notions of pruning and self-constitution. I am aware that self-constitution is a major theme for philosophers like Korsgaard. The authors strongly embrace this principle in drawing out their arguments. In a footnote to their article the authors claim that various notions of a “true self” imply a pruned self. For Winnicott, an originator of the “true self,” this note of pruning does not hold. Winnicott contrasts the true self, a sense of self based on spontaneous authentic experience and a feeling of being alive, with a false self, a defensive veneer without the vivacity of the true self. The notion of pruning simply does not belong in this discussion. What the authors and their supporting philosophers leave out are two limitations to self-constitution. For the first, let me invoke another philosopher, Martin Heidegger, and his notion of “thrownness”—Geworfenheit. We are “thrown” into the world in the particular circumstances of our birth. We do not self-constitute our beginnings; we are plunged into them. The question then becomes what we make of these beginnings. [End Page 209] If they are undesirable, we can brood over them, or we can attempt to overcome them. And as we all know, if the beginnings are bad enough, we may not be able to overcome them. The second limitation to self-constitution resides in the “self.” Does the individual constitute him or her self, or is it more a matter of the self developing out of dialogic relationship of self and other? Here I invoke another philosopher, Paul Ricoeur, who has addressed this issue from a number of perspectives. At a deictic level, the “I” or the self is a shifter that takes on a different meaning depending on its context. At the level of pragmatics, the individual is engaged in illocutionary speech that is addressed to another person, implying, in simple terms, that we live in dialogue. Still more pertinent to this discussion, Ricoeur notes that self-knowledge is not straightforward: “the self does not immediately know itself, but only knows itself indirectly by way of the detour through the cultural signs of all sorts that make us say that action is symbolically mediated” (Ricoeur, 2016, p. 240). And finally, Ricoeur argues for the priority of alterity over reflexivity. “Pushing further yet the primacy of alterity over reflexivity, some will emphasize the dependence of personal identities on identifications with . . . heroes, emblematic characters, models and teachers” (p. 248). To clarify this statement, Ricoeur is contrasting self-constitution through reflection with a self-other relationship in which the self needs the other to constitute itself—and, of course, he is making a case for the latter. 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The idea that Pete should deal with his inappropriate outbursts by erasing or pruning that aspect of his personality seems so ridiculous that it beggars belief. It leaves one wondering whether Pete, or anyone agreeing with this argument, is credulous enough to think you can just prune away an undesirable part of yourself. The authors write: Importantly, this expulsion is often thought to be a good thing not simply because the undesirable elements are morally wanting but because in some important sense, they are not really a part of the agent proper. This point many seem extravagantly wishful, but is intuitively plausible. Really, “intuitively plausible” that personality traits are not part of the agent? I can understand that the agent may not grasp his or her involvement in the undesirable trait, but to argue that the trait is in reality not part of agent is a very odd claim on the part of the authors. When the authors write that “It would be difficult to exaggerate the prominence of the pruning view of agential self-constitution in philosophy,” they are strongly connecting the notions of pruning and self-constitution. I am aware that self-constitution is a major theme for philosophers like Korsgaard. The authors strongly embrace this principle in drawing out their arguments. In a footnote to their article the authors claim that various notions of a “true self” imply a pruned self. For Winnicott, an originator of the “true self,” this note of pruning does not hold. Winnicott contrasts the true self, a sense of self based on spontaneous authentic experience and a feeling of being alive, with a false self, a defensive veneer without the vivacity of the true self. The notion of pruning simply does not belong in this discussion. What the authors and their supporting philosophers leave out are two limitations to self-constitution. For the first, let me invoke another philosopher, Martin Heidegger, and his notion of “thrownness”—Geworfenheit. We are “thrown” into the world in the particular circumstances of our birth. We do not self-constitute our beginnings; we are plunged into them. The question then becomes what we make of these beginnings. [End Page 209] If they are undesirable, we can brood over them, or we can attempt to overcome them. And as we all know, if the beginnings are bad enough, we may not be able to overcome them. The second limitation to self-constitution resides in the “self.” Does the individual constitute him or her self, or is it more a matter of the self developing out of dialogic relationship of self and other? Here I invoke another philosopher, Paul Ricoeur, who has addressed this issue from a number of perspectives. At a deictic level, the “I” or the self is a shifter that takes on a different meaning depending on its context. At the level of pragmatics, the individual is engaged in illocutionary speech that is addressed to another person, implying, in simple terms, that we live in dialogue. Still more pertinent to this discussion, Ricoeur notes that self-knowledge is not straightforward: “the self does not immediately know itself, but only knows itself indirectly by way of the detour through the cultural signs of all sorts that make us say that action is symbolically mediated” (Ricoeur, 2016, p. 240). And finally, Ricoeur argues for the priority of alterity over reflexivity. “Pushing further yet the primacy of alterity over reflexivity, some will emphasize the dependence of personal identities on identifications with . . . heroes, emblematic characters, models and teachers” (p. 248). To clarify this statement, Ricoeur is contrasting self-constitution through reflection with a self-other relationship in which the self needs the other to constitute itself—and, of course, he is making a case for the latter. 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自我构成的极限詹姆斯·菲利普斯,医学博士(生物)我基本上同意作者的观点,即精神分析或精神动力学方法是对简单修剪程序的一个很好的回应。尽管如此,我还是对他们的论点有疑问。我对修剪的概念感到惊讶,也很惊讶它像作者所说的那样受欢迎。皮特应该通过抹去或修剪他个性的这一方面来处理他不恰当的爆发的想法似乎是如此荒谬,以至于令人难以置信。这让人怀疑,皮特或任何同意这一观点的人是否足够轻信,认为你可以把自己不受欢迎的部分修剪掉。作者写道:重要的是,这种驱逐通常被认为是一件好事,不仅仅是因为不受欢迎的元素在道德上是缺乏的,而是因为在某种重要的意义上,它们并不是真正的主体的一部分。这一点似乎是一厢情愿,但从直觉上讲是合理的。人格特征不是行为人的一部分,这种“直觉上似乎合理”的说法是真的吗?我能理解行为人可能没有意识到他或她参与了不受欢迎的特质,但认为这种特质实际上不是行为人的一部分,这是作者非常奇怪的主张。当作者写道“很难夸大主体自我构成的修剪观点在哲学中的重要性”时,他们将修剪和自我构成的概念紧密地联系在一起。我知道自我构成是像科斯加德这样的哲学家的一个主要主题。作者在阐述他们的论点时强烈地采用了这一原则。在文章的脚注中,作者声称,“真我”的各种概念都暗示着一个被修剪过的自我。对于“真我”的创始人温尼科特来说,这种“修剪”的说法并不成立。温尼科特将真实的自我与虚假的自我进行了对比,真实的自我是一种基于自发的真实体验和活着的感觉的自我意识,虚假的自我是一种缺乏真实自我活力的防御性外表。修剪的概念根本不属于这个讨论。作者和支持他们的哲学家忽略了自我构成的两个限制。首先,让我引用另一位哲学家马丁·海德格尔(Martin Heidegger)和他的“抛掷”概念——geworfenheit。我们是在出生的特殊情况下被“扔”到这个世界上的。我们不能自我构成我们的开端;我们陷入其中。那么问题就变成了我们如何看待这些开端。如果它们是不受欢迎的,我们可以沉思它们,或者我们可以尝试克服它们。我们都知道,如果一开始就很糟糕,我们可能无法克服它们。自我构成的第二个限制在于“自我”。是个体构成了他或她的自我,还是从自我与他人的对话关系中发展出来的自我?在这里,我要引用另一位哲学家保罗·里科,他从多个角度探讨了这个问题。在指示层面上,“我”或自我是一个移位者,根据其上下文具有不同的含义。在语用学的层面上,个体从事于对另一个人的言外之语,简单地说,这意味着我们生活在对话中。与这一讨论更相关的是,Ricoeur注意到自我认识并不是直截了当地的:“自我并没有立即认识自己,而是通过各种各样的文化标志迂回地间接认识自己,这些文化标志使我们说行动是象征性地中介的”(Ricoeur, 2016, p. 240)。最后,Ricoeur主张替代性优先于反身性。“将差异性置于反身性之上进一步推进,一些人会强调个人身份依赖于对……的认同。”英雄、象征人物、模范和教师”(第248页)。为了澄清这一说法,Ricoeur将通过反思的自我构成与自我-他者关系进行了对比,在这种关系中,自我需要他者来构成自己——当然,他是在为后者辩护。虽然我在质疑作者关于……的概念。
The Limits of Self-Constitution James Phillips, MD (bio) I am in general agreement with the authors that a psychoanalytic or psychodynamic approach is a good response to simple pruning procedures. That said, however, I do have questions about how they develop their argument. I was surprised at the very notion of pruning, and quite surprised that it is as popular as the authors suggest. The idea that Pete should deal with his inappropriate outbursts by erasing or pruning that aspect of his personality seems so ridiculous that it beggars belief. It leaves one wondering whether Pete, or anyone agreeing with this argument, is credulous enough to think you can just prune away an undesirable part of yourself. The authors write: Importantly, this expulsion is often thought to be a good thing not simply because the undesirable elements are morally wanting but because in some important sense, they are not really a part of the agent proper. This point many seem extravagantly wishful, but is intuitively plausible. Really, “intuitively plausible” that personality traits are not part of the agent? I can understand that the agent may not grasp his or her involvement in the undesirable trait, but to argue that the trait is in reality not part of agent is a very odd claim on the part of the authors. When the authors write that “It would be difficult to exaggerate the prominence of the pruning view of agential self-constitution in philosophy,” they are strongly connecting the notions of pruning and self-constitution. I am aware that self-constitution is a major theme for philosophers like Korsgaard. The authors strongly embrace this principle in drawing out their arguments. In a footnote to their article the authors claim that various notions of a “true self” imply a pruned self. For Winnicott, an originator of the “true self,” this note of pruning does not hold. Winnicott contrasts the true self, a sense of self based on spontaneous authentic experience and a feeling of being alive, with a false self, a defensive veneer without the vivacity of the true self. The notion of pruning simply does not belong in this discussion. What the authors and their supporting philosophers leave out are two limitations to self-constitution. For the first, let me invoke another philosopher, Martin Heidegger, and his notion of “thrownness”—Geworfenheit. We are “thrown” into the world in the particular circumstances of our birth. We do not self-constitute our beginnings; we are plunged into them. The question then becomes what we make of these beginnings. [End Page 209] If they are undesirable, we can brood over them, or we can attempt to overcome them. And as we all know, if the beginnings are bad enough, we may not be able to overcome them. The second limitation to self-constitution resides in the “self.” Does the individual constitute him or her self, or is it more a matter of the self developing out of dialogic relationship of self and other? Here I invoke another philosopher, Paul Ricoeur, who has addressed this issue from a number of perspectives. At a deictic level, the “I” or the self is a shifter that takes on a different meaning depending on its context. At the level of pragmatics, the individual is engaged in illocutionary speech that is addressed to another person, implying, in simple terms, that we live in dialogue. Still more pertinent to this discussion, Ricoeur notes that self-knowledge is not straightforward: “the self does not immediately know itself, but only knows itself indirectly by way of the detour through the cultural signs of all sorts that make us say that action is symbolically mediated” (Ricoeur, 2016, p. 240). And finally, Ricoeur argues for the priority of alterity over reflexivity. “Pushing further yet the primacy of alterity over reflexivity, some will emphasize the dependence of personal identities on identifications with . . . heroes, emblematic characters, models and teachers” (p. 248). To clarify this statement, Ricoeur is contrasting self-constitution through reflection with a self-other relationship in which the self needs the other to constitute itself—and, of course, he is making a case for the latter. Although I am questioning the authors’ concepts of...