回复Christopher Hall的评论

M. Reyssat, L. Y. Sangne, E. A. van Nierop, H. Stone
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我们感谢C.霍尔在其他材料背景下对展览的评论。两个不同的社区可以考虑同一个问题的某些方面,但方法不同,希望有新的见解。我们认识到我们错过了来自土壤物理学和建筑材料界的丰富文献,并感谢C. Hall对过去研究的宝贵描述。然而,我们的信关注的是模型系统,它导致了其他文献中没有记录的特定动力学。具体来说,在我们的论文中,我们考虑了两个理想的多孔系统,我们用经典假设衍生的分析模型来描述。我们只考虑以硅油为液体,玻璃球为材料所实现的完美润湿条件。这些玻璃球具有精确的尺寸和形状,是一种理想的多孔材料。在我们信的第一部分,我们对两个均匀多孔层的吸胀感兴趣,我们确定了第二层湿锋以恒定速度前进的条件和时间,这显然是吸胀现象中不寻常的动态响应。这个条件是通过在给定长度s上由小珠子(直径ds)和大珠子(直径d)组成的双层系统来实现的。我们发现,当液体渗透到第二层时,有一个很好的特征距离,在这个距离内,渗吸锋面在时间上呈线性推进。这种状态是由于局部的粘性耗散在小珠层中,而小珠层中的耗散可以支配大珠层中的耗散。要在足够长的时间内观察这一状态,条件ds是必不可少的,否则就无法观察到。我们注意到,这种状态可以在[1]的图7中辨别出来,但作者没有将其描述为线性状态。我们论文的目的之一是指出这种特殊的制度,这是完全不同于什么是普遍接受的,并没有很好地记录在土壤物理学或其他文献中,据我们所知。这种不寻常的线性状态的一个有趣的特征是,它可以通过选择珠子直径的比例和由小珠子组成的初始层的长度来完美地预测(我们的论文[2]的公式(12))。我们认为这种线性响应在其他环境中也很有用,比如分析科学。在本文的第二部分,我们分析了层状材料的另一种特殊情况,其中层不是任意选择的,而是以一种渗透率梯度在样品上近似恒定的方式组织的。将实验结果与解析模型进行了比较,两者均为无因次形式,结果吻合得很好。我们信中所处理的情况与裁判的情况不同。[3,4],因为我们能够找到一个解析解,它很好地描述了我们模型实验的结果。总而言之,我们认识到我们错过了土壤物理和建筑材料界的文献,但我们认为我们整合分层响应和控制梯度的工作提供了附加价值,特别是指出了以前文献中没有记录的线性响应机制。
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Reply to the Comment by Christopher Hall
We thank C. Hall for the Comment on imbibition in other material contexts. Two different communities can consider some aspects of the same problem, but with different approaches and hopefully new insights. We recognize that we missed the rich literature from the soil physics and construction materials communities and thank C. Hall for his valuable description of past research. However, our letter concerns model systems, which lead to specific dynamics not documented as well in these other literatures. Specifically, in our paper, we consider two ideal porous systems that we describe with analytical models derived from classical assumptions. We consider only perfect wetting conditions realized by using silicon oil as the liquid and glass spheres as the material. These glass spheres constitute an ideal porous material by having wellcalibrated sizes and shapes. In the first part of our letter, we are interested in imbibition in two uniform porous layers and we identify conditions and times during which the wetting front in the second layer advances with a constant velocity, which is clearly an unusual dynamical response in imbibition phenomena. This condition is realized by using two-layer systems made of small beads (of diameter ds) over a given length s and then large beads (of diameter d ). We show that as the liquid penetrates into the second layer, there is a well-characterized distance in which the imbibition front advances linearly in time. This regime is due to localized viscous dissipation into the layer of small beads, which can dominate the dissipation in the layer of large beads. The condition ds d is essential to observe this regime over a sufficiently long time and cannot be observed otherwise. We note that this regime can be discerned in fig. 7 of [1], but is not described as a linear regime by the authors. One of the aims of our paper consisted of pointing out this particular regime, which is completely different from what is commonly accepted and is not well documented in the soil physics or other literatures, to the best of our knowledge. An interesting feature of this unusual linear regime is its possibility to be perfectly predicted by choosing the ratio of the bead diameters and the length of the initial layer made of the small beads (eq. (12) of our paper [2]). We think that this linear response can be useful in other contexts such as analytical sciences, for example. In the second part of our paper, we analyze another particular case of layered materials where the layers are not chosen arbitrarily but organized in a way that the gradient of permeability is approximately constant over the sample. The experimental results are compared to the analytical model, with both in dimensionless form, and very good agreement is observed. The case treated in our letter differs from the ones from refs. [3,4], in that we are able to find an analytical solution that is an excellent description of the results of our model experiments. To conclude, we recognize that we have missed literature from the soil physics and construction materials communities, but we think that our work integrating layered responses and controlled gradients provides added value, and in particular points out a linear response regime that had not been documented before in the literature.
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