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When the connection between texts are investigated, the main points of connection are seen in the occurrence of a Jewish objection against the Incarnation using the language of the Proslogion, in a discussion of the devil's rights, and in Gilbert's use of an argument against the possibility of an angel or human restoring human nature. My argument will acknowledge these elements, though I will take issue with Richard Southern's interpretation of them, and go further, showing that the Cur Deus Homo is an apologetic for Anselm's Proslogion, that the questions raised in Gilbert's Dispute also contribute to Anselm's discussions in the Cur Deus Homo of the virgin birth and several other topics. Additionally, I will argue that Anselm's tactic of removing Christ from the discussion is a tactic developed in response to the failure of Gilbert's attempt to offer a convincing argument for the Incarnation using the Old Testament. For the benefit of those who have not read it, let me provide a brief overview of Gilbert's Dispute. Gilbert Crispin, one of Anselm's former students, was brought to England from Normandy by Lanfranc in 1085, where he became the abbot at Westminster. The Norman kings, in addition to importing a great number of Bec alumni for the purpose of reinvigorating the English monasteries, also imported a contingent of Jews from Normandy to take care of some of their financial matters – even back then war required the ability to acquire debt and Jews could charge interest to non-Jews. Gilbert apparently did business with one of these Jews, who Gilbert reports was educated in Mainz, and occasionally they engaged in a friendly theological discussion, which served as the genesis of Gilbert's written dispute. 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吉尔伯特·克里斯平(Gilbert Crispin)的《犹太人与基督徒之争》和安瑟伦(Anselm)的《人是上帝》(Cur Deus Homo)之间的联系矛盾地确立了,但却没有得到充分的探索。早在1954年,Richard Southern就注意到这两篇文章之间的一些联系,并假设Anselm对吉尔伯特的论点产生了一些影响。吉尔伯特的争论有时被用来帮助解释Anselm的未命名的犹太对话者在《我们是人》中的角色,尽管更多时候Anselm的犹太人被认为是虚构的,并没有表明Anselm和犹太人之间有任何真实的互动。当研究文本之间的联系时,主要的联系点出现在犹太人使用proslogition的语言反对化身的出现,在讨论魔鬼的权利,以及吉尔伯特使用反对天使或人类恢复人性的可能性的论点。我的论点将承认这些因素,尽管我将对Richard Southern对它们的解释提出异议,并进一步表明,《魔鬼人》是对Anselm的《序篇》的道歉,Gilbert的《争论》中提出的问题也有助于Anselm在《魔鬼人》中对处女生育的讨论以及其他几个话题。此外,我将论证安瑟伦把基督从讨论中移除的策略,是针对吉尔伯特试图用旧约为道成肉身提供令人信服的论据的失败而发展起来的策略。为了帮助那些没有读过这本书的人,让我简要概述一下吉尔伯特的《争议》。吉尔伯特·克里斯平(Gilbert Crispin)是安塞尔姆以前的学生之一,他于1085年被兰法郎从诺曼底带到英国,在那里他成为了威斯敏斯特的修道院院长。诺曼国王,除了为了振兴英国修道院而引进大量的贝克校友外,还从诺曼底引进了一支犹太人队伍来处理他们的一些财务问题——即使在当时的战争中,也需要获得债务的能力,犹太人可以向非犹太人收取利息。吉尔伯特显然和其中一个犹太人有过生意往来,据吉尔伯特说,这个犹太人在美因茨接受过教育,他们偶尔会进行友好的神学讨论,这就是吉尔伯特写的争论的起源。虽然对吉尔伯特的对话者的真实性存在一些争议,但大多数学者认为,这场争论是一次真正讨论的结果,尽管吉尔伯特对其进行了修改和编辑。当犹太讲话者在对话开始时抱怨基督徒对待犹太人的方式时,我们看到了这种现实的元素,他想知道为什么“律法必须被遵守,为什么你要把它的追随者与
The Proslogion, Gilbert Crispin, and the Cur Deus homo
The connection between Gilbert Crispin’s Dispute between a Jew and a Christian and Anselm’s Cur Deus Homo is paradoxically well established and yet underexplored. As early as 1954, Richard Southern noted some links between the two texts and hypothesized that Anselm had some influence on Gilbert's argument. Gilbert's Dispute has sometimes been used to help explain the role of Anselm's unnamed Jewish interlocutors in the Cur Deus Homo, though more often Anselm’s Jews are considered to be fictive and not indicative of any real interaction between Anselm and Jews. When the connection between texts are investigated, the main points of connection are seen in the occurrence of a Jewish objection against the Incarnation using the language of the Proslogion, in a discussion of the devil's rights, and in Gilbert's use of an argument against the possibility of an angel or human restoring human nature. My argument will acknowledge these elements, though I will take issue with Richard Southern's interpretation of them, and go further, showing that the Cur Deus Homo is an apologetic for Anselm's Proslogion, that the questions raised in Gilbert's Dispute also contribute to Anselm's discussions in the Cur Deus Homo of the virgin birth and several other topics. Additionally, I will argue that Anselm's tactic of removing Christ from the discussion is a tactic developed in response to the failure of Gilbert's attempt to offer a convincing argument for the Incarnation using the Old Testament. For the benefit of those who have not read it, let me provide a brief overview of Gilbert's Dispute. Gilbert Crispin, one of Anselm's former students, was brought to England from Normandy by Lanfranc in 1085, where he became the abbot at Westminster. The Norman kings, in addition to importing a great number of Bec alumni for the purpose of reinvigorating the English monasteries, also imported a contingent of Jews from Normandy to take care of some of their financial matters – even back then war required the ability to acquire debt and Jews could charge interest to non-Jews. Gilbert apparently did business with one of these Jews, who Gilbert reports was educated in Mainz, and occasionally they engaged in a friendly theological discussion, which served as the genesis of Gilbert's written dispute. While there is some dispute over the reality of Gilbert's interlocutor, the majority of scholars think that the Dispute is the fruit of a genuine discussion, though one that Gilbert reworked and edited. We see elements of this reality when the Jewish speaker complains about Christian treatment of Jews at the beginning of the dialogue, wondering why if "the Law must be observed, why do you compare its followers to