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结论的范围。Haslett和Willis(2022)在对资料介绍的序言中提出了一般的警告,同时提出了一些例子,不是为了支持他们自己的任何结论,而是作为开始研究的先决条件,从一开始就提供一定程度的保证,表明戈夫地图上描绘的岛屿值得进一步考虑。然而,Delano-Smith等人(2022)对高夫地图不是已知最早的英国地图这一错误进行了可喜的澄清(Haslett and Willis 2022;苏格兰国家图书馆(National Library of Scotland, 2022)),但更准确的描述是,例如,它是“已知现存最早的绘制在单独一张纸上的英国地图”(DelanoSmith et al. 2017,第3页)和“最早以可识别的形式展示英国的地图”(Nurse, 2022,第50页)。正如高夫地图所描绘的那样,卡迪根湾可能曾经存在岛屿,这促使哈斯莱特和威利斯(2022)重新考虑托勒密(North)(1957)修正的坐标。位于卡迪根湾南端的泰菲河(Afon Teifi)河口的坐标与它现在的位置接近。对位置不变的地貌学解释是可能的,因为放射性碳测年为9539- 10154 cal. BP,这表明河口近海的拖网渔场的水深特征可能对海洋条件开放,并且可能是一条航道,这可能是早期海员可以想象的(见Haslett和Willis 2022年的图4)。然而,沿着海岸向北,下一个坐标,即伊斯特威斯河口(Afon Ystwyth),位于河口现在位置以西约8英里(约13公里)处。在充分欣赏Delano-Smith等人(2022)的评论的同时,Gough地图上对近海岛屿的描述似乎与REPLY一致
Reply to the Discussion of “The ‘lost’ islands of Cardigan Bay, Wales, UK: insights into the post-glacial evolution of some Celtic coasts of northwest Europe” by Catherine Delano-Smith, Phil Bradford, and William Shannon
range of conclusions. Whilst prefacing their introduction to sources with a general note of caution, Haslett and Willis (2022) present examples, not in support of any conclusions of their own but as a prerequisite for embarking on the study in providing at the outset a level of reassurance that suggests the islands depicted on the Gough Map merit further consideration. However, Delano-Smith et al. (2022) provide a welcome clarification to the mistake that the Gough Map is not the earliest known map of Great Britain (Haslett and Willis 2022; National Library of Scotland 2022) but rather is more correctly described, for example, as the “earliest known surviving map of Britain drawn on a separate sheet” (DelanoSmith et al. 2017, p. 3) and the “the earliest map to show Britain in recognizable form” (Nurse 2022, p. 50). The possibility that islands once existed in Cardigan Bay, as depicted on the Gough Map, prompted Haslett and Willis (2022) to reconsider Ptolemy’s coordinates as corrected by North (1957). The coordinate for the mouth of the River Teifi (Afon Teifi) at the southern end of Cardigan Bay is near its present-day location. A geomorphological explanation for an unchanged position is possible in that a radiocarbon date of 9539-10 154 cal. BP suggests that the Trawling Grounds bathymetric feature offshore of the river mouth may have been open to marine conditions and possibly a seaway for several thousand years, which may conceivably have been accessible to early seafarers (see fig. 4 of Haslett and Willis 2022). Northward along the coast, however, the next coordinate, for the mouth of the River Ystwyth (Afon Ystwyth), lies some 8 miles (ca. 13 km) west of the present-day location of the river mouth. While fully appreciating the comments of Delano-Smith et al. (2022), the depiction of offshore islands on the Gough Map appears consistent with REPLY