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Here are two definitions that summarize our thoughts: 1) The Merchandising of Forth development environments and programming tools or applications that utilize Forth. 2) The establishment of Forth as a language of choice among a particular group of users or within a particular programming domain. Permission to copy without fee all or psrt of thie material ia granted, provided that the copies are not made or distributed for direct commercial advantage, the ACM copyright notice and the title of the publication and its date appear, and notice ie given that wpying ie by permission of the Association for Computkg Machinery. TO copy otherwise, or to republish, requires a fee and/or spec~lc permieaion. 01991 ACM 0-89791-462-7/90/0200-0063 $1.50 Each of the above definitions deals with the marketing of Forth from a different viewpoint. The fiist applies specificrdly to the Forth vendor or the application developer who uses Forth by choice. 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这是在SIGForth 90会议上举行的Forth营销研讨会的总结。我们首先列出了Forth供应商的营销关注点。然而,我们很快发现,真正的问题是向公众推销Forth。我们在研讨会结束时列出了Forth爱好者可以提高Forth被接受为首选语言的机会的一些方法。Forth市场营销研讨会是在SIGForth 90会议上举行的。这是一次即兴集会,持续了大约一个小时。参加的有:Dave Ruske, Greg Lisle, Wayne Wekner, Paul Snow, Richard Manning, Phil Koopman, Frank Earl, Lenord Mogan, Tom Hand, Howard Harkness, Kurt Barber, Larry Forsley, Warren Bean。首先,我们必须弄清楚推销Forth意味着什么。这里有两个定义概括了我们的想法:1)Forth开发环境和利用Forth的编程工具或应用程序的商品化。2)将Forth确立为特定用户组或特定编程领域的首选语言。授予免费复制全部或全部材料的许可,前提是这些副本不是为直接商业利益而制作或分发的,并出现ACM版权声明、出版物的标题和日期,并在获得计算机机械协会许可的情况下发出通知。以其他方式复制或重新发布,需要付费和/或许可。以上每个定义都从不同的角度处理Forth的营销。前者特别适用于选择使用Forth的Forth供应商或应用程序开发人员。然而,第二,适用于任何试图传播接受福斯的狂热者。第四个供应商关心的是销售他的产品。显然,如果增加Forth的使用增加了他的潜在客户基础,他将尝试产生对Forth的兴趣。然而,他主要感兴趣的是向现有市场销售。因此,他的产品反映了Forth程序员的需求和愿望。在研讨会期间,我们得出了以下可能对第四个供应商感兴趣的市场营销问题列表:1)他应该在什么级别进入市场?他的产品线应该有多广?3)他是否应该将营销工作集中在特定的应用领域?4)如何接触潜在客户?5)现在他能洞察客户的需求吗?6)他应该在什么程度上以什么方式提供支持?7)产品应该如何包装?手册呢?
This is a summary of the Marketing of Forth Workshop held at the SIGForth 90 conference. We started by listing the marketing concerns of Forth vendors. However, we quickly discovered that the real issue was the Marketing of Forth to the general public. We fhtished the workshop listing some of the ways that the Forth enthusiast could improve Forth’s chances of being accepted as a language of choice. The Marketing of Forth workshop was held at the SIGForth 90 conference. It was an impromptu gathering lasting approximately one hour. Participating were: Dave Ruske, Greg Lisle, Wayne Wekner, Paul Snow, Richard Manning, Phil Koopman, Frank Earl, Lenord Mogan, Tom Hand, Howard Harkness, Kurt Barber, Larry Forsley, Warren Bean. First we had to figure out just what it means to market Forth. Here are two definitions that summarize our thoughts: 1) The Merchandising of Forth development environments and programming tools or applications that utilize Forth. 2) The establishment of Forth as a language of choice among a particular group of users or within a particular programming domain. Permission to copy without fee all or psrt of thie material ia granted, provided that the copies are not made or distributed for direct commercial advantage, the ACM copyright notice and the title of the publication and its date appear, and notice ie given that wpying ie by permission of the Association for Computkg Machinery. TO copy otherwise, or to republish, requires a fee and/or spec~lc permieaion. 01991 ACM 0-89791-462-7/90/0200-0063 $1.50 Each of the above definitions deals with the marketing of Forth from a different viewpoint. The fiist applies specificrdly to the Forth vendor or the application developer who uses Forth by choice. Whereas, the second, applies to any Forth enthusiast attempting to propagate the acceptance of Forth. The Forth vendor is concerned with the selling his product. Obviously, if increasing the use of Forth increases his potential customer base, he will attempt to generate interest in Forth. However, he is mainly interested selling to the existing market. Thus his products reflect the needs and desires of the Forth programmer. During the workshop we derived the following list of marketing concerns that may be of interest to the forth vendor: 1) At what level should he enter the market place? 2) How extensive should his product line be? 3) Should he focus his marketirtg effort in a specific application area? 4) How should he reach his potential customers? 5) now can he establish insight into his customer’s needs? 6) At what level should he provide support and by what means? 7) How should the product be packaged? 8) What about manuals?