Disembodied Minds and Personal Identity

Thomas W. Smythe
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Inlhree distinguished philosophers-Peter Strawson, Terence Penelhum, and Derek Parfit-have given arguments against the existence of disembodied Cartesian minds based on considerations about personal identity. I shall rebut their arguments. Although I see no convincing reason to believe there are disembodied Cartesian minds, I think they are distinct logical possibilities_ I will defend this possibility against these arguments because I do not think the arguments hold any water. P.F. Strawson gives a very typical criticism of Cartesian dualism and disembodied minds. He says that in order to be able to reidentify individual items of any kind, we must first be able to identify them. In order to identify any given item, we must have a way of individuating items of that kind; we must know when we have one such item rather than two. Cartesian dualists, however, hold that the concept of a mind is genuinely independent of talk about a person, a human being or a man. 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The latter cannot be done since no mental criteria for personal identity are sufficient of themselves. Therefore, Cartesian dualism and talk about disembodied minds is mistaken. I shall consider Strawson's criticism as it pertains only to the real possibility of disembodied minds. The main point is that we lack any way of identifying and individuating disembodied minds. There would be no way to pick out some other disembodied mind A rather than B because there is no observation we could make to show we have one mind A rather than B. The knowledge we could in principle have of the identity of any disembodied mind would have to depend on our ability to identify and reidentify such entities, and the identification of a disembodied mind requires that we be able to pick out or individuate such an entity. But there does not seem to be any way of individuating Cartesian minds which would allow us to identify them for they do not occupy space. One might say that two distinct disembodied minds are distinct because they have different mental histories, but this will not help us pick out one mind from another. Since the identity of disembodied minds over time depends on being able to identify them, there is no reason to think any account of the identity of disembodied minds may be given. The criticism is not just dependent on the impossibility of having any physical means of identification for disembodied minds. A disembodied mind might appear to us in the guise of a fire or vary its appearance in different mediums such as a voice, a beam of light, and so on. The difficulty is one of knowing that it is one disembodied mind A rather then B which appears to us this way (since the Cartesian mind and its properties itself never appear to us even when embodied), and knowing it is the same mind which appears to us now one way and now another. If we assumed that a disembodied Cartesian mind can act on, or initiate change in, the physical world, then we still may be able to formulate a criterion for the identity of minds. However, if we fail we cannot conclude that the account of the identity of disembodied minds is impossible in principle. We may still be able to know of the identity of such minds in some other way. Such a way of knowing the identity of disembodied minds can be made intelligible by considering the notion of a \"criterion\" for personal identity construed in terms of necessary evidence. It is reasonable to believe that memory claims, when sincere and confident, count as a criterion for personal identity because it is inconceivable that a memory claim made by a person should be irrelevant as evidence for his identity, or that his memory claims would not count as evidence for his identity. It is necessarily true that a person's sincere and confident memory reports made about his past history count as some evidence for his past identity. This way of telling whether memory claims are criteria for personal identity involves asking ourselves whether we can imagine a case where sincere and confident memory statements could ever fail to carry some presumption that the person who utters such statements is identical with a certain past DISEMBODIED MINDS AND PERSONAL IDENTITY 417 self. This method of deciding whether memory statements count as necessary evidence for personal identity, which has become well known in the literature of personal identity, can be applied to disembodied minds. In this sense of \"criterion\" it seems that a disembodied mind could speak to us through a medium, or out of blue, and make a memory claim to be a certain person. 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If all of what Shoemaker says in support of this is adequate (and I am inclined to think there are some serious problems here), one might be able to argue, in a similar way, that it is a necessary truth that sincere and confident memory claims made by a disembodied mind are usually true. Whether Shoemaker is correct and whether or not it is a conceptual truth that honest and confident assertions by people that they are identical with people previously identified are generally correct, I think enough has been said to dispel the view that it is impossible to give an account of the identity of another disembodied mind. Thus, Strawson is not justified in concluding that there is no reason to think any account can be given of the identity of an individual consciousness or a disembodied Cartesian mind. Strawson is open to just this criticism since he says we can conceive of disembodiment in a secondary way, derivative from our existence and identity as a person with physical properties. 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Discussion of the human soul has bulked large in the literature of philosophy and religion. I defend the possibility of disembodied Cartesian minds by examining the criticisms of three philosophers who argue that there are serious difficulties about any attempt to account for the identity of such Cartesian minds through time. I argue that their criticisms of the possibility of disembodied minds are damaging but not fatal. I hold that the central issue behind their criticisms of Cartesian minds is whether any nonphysical mental criterion can be formulated for the identity of such entities. Even though no such criterion can be given, disembodied minds that persist through time remain logical possibilities. Inlhree distinguished philosophers-Peter Strawson, Terence Penelhum, and Derek Parfit-have given arguments against the existence of disembodied Cartesian minds based on considerations about personal identity. I shall rebut their arguments. Although I see no convincing reason to believe there are disembodied Cartesian minds, I think they are distinct logical possibilities_ I will defend this possibility against these arguments because I do not think the arguments hold any water. P.F. Strawson gives a very typical criticism of Cartesian dualism and disembodied minds. He says that in order to be able to reidentify individual items of any kind, we must first be able to identify them. In order to identify any given item, we must have a way of individuating items of that kind; we must know when we have one such item rather than two. Cartesian dualists, however, hold that the concept of a mind is genuinely independent of talk about a person, a human being or a man. For a Cartesian,the concept of a mind is not dependent on the concept of a person the way talk of surfaces is dependent on the concept of a material object. It is essential to Cartesianism "that the application of the notions of identity and numerability of souls (consciousness) should not be determined by their application to persons."1 We know how to apply the concepts of identity and difference to individual human beings, but the Cartesian cannot rely on this since, "the concept of the identity of a soul or consciousness over time is not derivative from, dependent upon, the concept of the iden416 THOMAS W. SMYTHE tity of person over time".2 The Cartesian must either admit that the concepts of identity and difference of minds are derivative from the concepts of identity and difference of human beings, or supply us with an independently intelligible account of the individuation and identity of Cartesian minds. The former amounts to giving up Cartesian dualism. The latter cannot be done since no mental criteria for personal identity are sufficient of themselves. Therefore, Cartesian dualism and talk about disembodied minds is mistaken. I shall consider Strawson's criticism as it pertains only to the real possibility of disembodied minds. The main point is that we lack any way of identifying and individuating disembodied minds. There would be no way to pick out some other disembodied mind A rather than B because there is no observation we could make to show we have one mind A rather than B. The knowledge we could in principle have of the identity of any disembodied mind would have to depend on our ability to identify and reidentify such entities, and the identification of a disembodied mind requires that we be able to pick out or individuate such an entity. But there does not seem to be any way of individuating Cartesian minds which would allow us to identify them for they do not occupy space. One might say that two distinct disembodied minds are distinct because they have different mental histories, but this will not help us pick out one mind from another. Since the identity of disembodied minds over time depends on being able to identify them, there is no reason to think any account of the identity of disembodied minds may be given. The criticism is not just dependent on the impossibility of having any physical means of identification for disembodied minds. A disembodied mind might appear to us in the guise of a fire or vary its appearance in different mediums such as a voice, a beam of light, and so on. The difficulty is one of knowing that it is one disembodied mind A rather then B which appears to us this way (since the Cartesian mind and its properties itself never appear to us even when embodied), and knowing it is the same mind which appears to us now one way and now another. If we assumed that a disembodied Cartesian mind can act on, or initiate change in, the physical world, then we still may be able to formulate a criterion for the identity of minds. However, if we fail we cannot conclude that the account of the identity of disembodied minds is impossible in principle. We may still be able to know of the identity of such minds in some other way. Such a way of knowing the identity of disembodied minds can be made intelligible by considering the notion of a "criterion" for personal identity construed in terms of necessary evidence. It is reasonable to believe that memory claims, when sincere and confident, count as a criterion for personal identity because it is inconceivable that a memory claim made by a person should be irrelevant as evidence for his identity, or that his memory claims would not count as evidence for his identity. It is necessarily true that a person's sincere and confident memory reports made about his past history count as some evidence for his past identity. This way of telling whether memory claims are criteria for personal identity involves asking ourselves whether we can imagine a case where sincere and confident memory statements could ever fail to carry some presumption that the person who utters such statements is identical with a certain past DISEMBODIED MINDS AND PERSONAL IDENTITY 417 self. This method of deciding whether memory statements count as necessary evidence for personal identity, which has become well known in the literature of personal identity, can be applied to disembodied minds. In this sense of "criterion" it seems that a disembodied mind could speak to us through a medium, or out of blue, and make a memory claim to be a certain person. Suppose we hear a voice that says or asserts that he is a certain person we knew in the past; the person thereby identifies himself as being a certain person we knew in the past and previously identified. It would seem, off hand, that his claim or assertion that he is identical with a certain person we previously identified could not fail to be evidence that he is the person. Certainly we would be inclined to place as much weight on the memory statements of disembodied minds as we would on memory statements made by embodied persons. Sydney Shoemaker has argued that memory is a criterion for personal identity in a more complicated and careful way. He gives some arguments for the necessary truth that sincere and confident memory statements are generally true. If so, inferences of the form, "He claims to remember doing x, so he probably did x", are noninductive and memory claims are criteria for personal identity? If all of what Shoemaker says in support of this is adequate (and I am inclined to think there are some serious problems here), one might be able to argue, in a similar way, that it is a necessary truth that sincere and confident memory claims made by a disembodied mind are usually true. Whether Shoemaker is correct and whether or not it is a conceptual truth that honest and confident assertions by people that they are identical with people previously identified are generally correct, I think enough has been said to dispel the view that it is impossible to give an account of the identity of another disembodied mind. Thus, Strawson is not justified in concluding that there is no reason to think any account can be given of the identity of an individual consciousness or a disembodied Cartesian mind. Strawson is open to just this criticism since he says we can conceive of disembodiment in a secondary way, derivative from our existence and identity as a person with physical properties. He seems to think that personal identity, once established, has a kind of inertia that can keep it intact even after physical properties have dropped away. Thus my criticism is at least consistent with what Strawson himself says. Let us now turn to what is apparently a more serious difficulty for disembodied minds based on considerations about our knowledge of personal identity. Terence Penelhum has an even more basic attack on the notion of disembodied minds. It is based on difficulties in saying we have the same disembodied mind at different times.s His criticism is not based on the problem of identification and individuation of Cartesian minds, but more directly on considerations necessary for speaking of the identity of any item through time. The cogent part of Penelhum's attack stems from his application of Shoemaker's arguments that there is a sense in which bodily identity is the most fundamental criterion for personal identity. The most basic consideration is the way in which memory depends on local bodily identity in order to be used as a criterion for personal identity. In order to recognize people's personal memory claims, we must be able to identify and recognize them in a bodily way over a long enough period of time to organize and understand their memory 418 THOMAS W. SMYTHE claims. This requires some bodily way of telling that we are conversing with the same person which is independent of memory. In addition, for disembodied minds, we will also need bodily identity to show that a person is using words like "remember" correctly and as the most fundamental way of distinguishing correct and incorrect memory claims. This is because there can be no reidentification of any physicalistic realization of memories in disembodied minds. The effect of this is to make the memory criter
无实体心灵和个人同一性
关于人类灵魂的讨论在哲学和宗教文献中占据了很大的篇幅。我通过考察三位哲学家的批评来捍卫无实体笛卡尔思想的可能性,他们认为,任何试图解释这种笛卡尔思想随时间的同一性的尝试都存在严重的困难。我认为他们对无实体思维可能性的批评是有害的,但不是致命的。我认为,他们对笛卡尔思想的批评背后的核心问题是,是否可以为这些实体的同一性制定任何非物质的精神标准。尽管没有给出这样的标准,但随着时间的推移而持续存在的无实体思维仍然是逻辑上的可能性。三位杰出的哲学家——彼得·斯特劳森、特伦斯·佩内胡姆和德里克·帕菲特——基于对个人同一性的考虑,提出了反对无实体笛卡尔思想存在的论点。我将反驳他们的论点。虽然我找不到令人信服的理由去相信无实体的笛卡尔思想的存在,但我认为它们是独特的逻辑可能性——我将捍卫这种可能性,反对这些论点,因为我认为这些论点站不住脚。p。f。斯特劳森对笛卡儿的二元论和无实体思维提出了一个非常典型的批评。他说,为了能够重新识别任何种类的单个物品,我们必须首先能够识别它们。为了识别任何给定的项目,我们必须有一种方法来区分这类项目;我们必须知道什么时候我们有一个这样的项目而不是两个。然而,笛卡尔的二元论认为,心灵的概念是真正独立于谈论一个人,一个人或一个人。对于笛卡尔来说,心灵的概念并不依赖于人的概念就像我们所说的曲面并不依赖于实物的概念一样。笛卡尔主义认为"灵魂(意识)的同一性和可数性的概念的应用不应该由它们在人身上的应用来决定"我们知道如何将同一性和差异性的概念应用于个体人类,但笛卡尔不能依赖于此,因为,“灵魂或意识随时间的同一性的概念并非衍生于或依赖于同一性的概念。笛卡尔学派必须要么承认心灵的同一性和差异性的概念是从人类的同一性和差异性的概念衍生出来的,要么为我们提供一个独立可理解的关于笛卡尔思想的个体化和同一性的解释。前者等于放弃笛卡尔的二元论。后者是不能做到的,因为没有任何关于个人同一性的精神标准本身是足够的。因此,笛卡尔的二元论和无体心灵论是错误的。我将考虑斯特劳森的批评,因为它只适用于脱离肉体的心灵的真实可能性。主要的一点是,我们缺乏任何方法来识别和个性化无实体的心灵。就没有办法挑选其他一些空洞的头脑而不是因为没有观察我们可以给我们有一个心灵而不是原则上的知识我们可以有身份的任何空洞的头脑必须依靠我们的能力来识别和reidentify这样的实体,和空洞的心灵的识别要求我们能够挑选或个别化这样一个实体。但似乎没有任何方法可以使笛卡尔的思想个体化,使我们能够识别它们,因为它们不占空间。有人可能会说,两个截然不同的无实体心灵之所以不同,是因为它们有不同的精神历史,但这并不能帮助我们区分出两个心灵。由于随着时间的推移,脱离肉体的心灵的身份取决于是否能够识别它们,因此没有理由认为可以给出任何关于脱离肉体的心灵身份的解释。这种批评不仅依赖于不可能有任何物理手段来识别无肉体的心灵。一个无实体的心灵可能会以火的形式出现在我们面前,或者以不同的媒介,如声音、一束光等,改变它的外观。困难在于要知道,在我们看来,是一个无实体的心灵A,而不是以这种方式出现的心灵B(因为笛卡尔的心灵及其性质本身,即使在具体化的情况下,也从未向我们出现过),要知道,在我们看来,时而以这种方式出现,时而以另一种方式出现的,是同一个心灵。如果我们假设一个无实体的笛卡尔思想可以作用于物质世界,或者引发物质世界的变化,那么我们仍然可以为思想的同一性制定一个标准。然而,如果我们失败了,我们就不能得出结论说,对无肉体心灵的同一性的解释在原则上是不可能的。我们或许仍能以其他方式了解这些心灵的身份。 通过考虑根据必要证据解释的个人同一性的“标准”概念,可以使这种了解无肉体心灵身份的方法变得容易理解。我们有理由相信,在真诚和自信的情况下,记忆主张可以作为个人身份的一个标准,因为一个人的记忆主张与他的身份无关,或者他的记忆主张不能作为他身份的证据,这是不可想象的。一个人对他过去的历史所做的真诚和自信的记忆报告必然是他过去身份的一些证据。这种判断记忆主张是否是人格同一性的标准的方法包括问我们自己,我们是否可以想象这样一种情况,即真诚和自信的记忆陈述可能不带有某种假设,即说出这些陈述的人与过去某个无实体的心灵和人格同一性自我是相同的。这种判断记忆陈述是否可以作为人格同一性的必要证据的方法,在人格同一性的文献中已经广为人知,可以应用于无实体的心灵。在这种“标准”的意义上,似乎一个无实体的心灵可以通过媒介或突然与我们交谈,并使记忆声称自己是某个特定的人。假设我们听到一个声音说或断言他是我们过去认识的某个人;因此,这个人将自己认定为我们过去认识的、以前认识的某个人。似乎,他的主张或断言,他与我们之前确定的某个人是相同的,不能不证明他就是那个人。当然,我们会倾向于重视非实体心灵的记忆陈述就像重视实体人的记忆陈述一样。西德尼·舒梅克认为,记忆是以一种更复杂、更谨慎的方式作为个人身份的标准。他给出了一些论据来证明一个必要的真理,即真诚和自信的记忆陈述通常是正确的。如果是这样,"他声称记得做过x事,所以他可能做过x事"这种形式的推论,是非归纳性的,而记忆主张是人格同一性的标准?如果苏梅克支持这一点的所有说法都是充分的(我倾向于认为这里存在一些严重的问题),人们可能会以类似的方式争辩说,一个无实体的心灵所提出的真诚而自信的记忆主张通常是正确的,这是一个必然的真理。不管休梅克是正确的,不管人们诚实而自信地断言自己与先前被认同的人是相同的这一概念是否正确,我认为已经说得足够多了,足以消除这样一种观点,即不可能对另一个无实体的心灵的身份进行描述。因此,斯特劳森没有理由得出结论,认为没有理由认为可以给出任何关于个体意识或无实体笛卡尔思想的同一性的解释。斯特劳森对这种批评持开放态度,因为他说我们可以从另一个角度来理解脱离肉体,从我们的存在和作为一个具有物理属性的人的身份衍生出来。他似乎认为,个人身份一旦确立,就会有一种惯性,即使在物理属性消失后,也能保持完整。因此,我的批评至少与斯特劳森本人所说的是一致的。现在让我们转到显然是一个更严重的困难对于无肉体的心灵基于我们对人格同一性的知识的考虑。特伦斯·佩内尔胡姆对无实体思维的概念进行了更基本的攻击。这是基于说我们在不同的时间拥有同样的无实体的心灵是困难的。他的批评不是基于笛卡尔思想的认同和个性化问题,而是更直接地基于在时间中谈论任何事物的同一性所必需的考虑。Penelhum攻击的有力部分源于他对Shoemaker论点的应用,即在某种意义上,身体同一性是个人同一性的最基本标准。最基本的考虑是记忆依赖于局部身体身份的方式,以便作为个人身份的标准。为了识别人们的个人记忆要求,我们必须能够在足够长的时间内以身体的方式识别和认识他们,以组织和理解他们的记忆。这需要某种独立于记忆的身体方式来告诉我们,我们正在与同一个人交谈。此外,对于无实体思维,我们还需要身体身份来表明一个人正确地使用了“记住”这样的词,这是区分正确和错误记忆主张的最基本方法。 这是因为在无实体的心灵中,记忆的任何物理实现都无法被重新识别。这样做的效果是使内存变小
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