On the metahistorical roots of the fairytale

IF 0.1 4区 社会学 0 FOLKLORE
WESTERN FOLKLORE Pub Date : 2002-10-01 DOI:10.2307/1500423
Victoria Somoff
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Abstract

In the true folktale world, God needs not to be troubled to put everything in order, but this order comes about by itself. Max Luthi One of the aspects of genre theory is concerned with the problem of the border between two different genres that share some common features. It would not be exaggerating to state that this particular aspect becomes crucially important when differentiating myth and folktale-due to the undeniable similarities, acknowledged by folklore scholars since the brothers Grimm-between these two genres. The difficulty in drawing a border between myth and folktale has led to various cases of misunderstanding in folklore theory. Probably, the most famous is the Propp/Levi- Strauss debate where one of the points of disagreement is concerned with the genre of the material under study. According to Levi-Strauss, the difference between myth and folktale is not qualitative but rather a "difference of degree": "Tales are miniature myths, in which the same oppositions are transposed to a smaller scale, and that is what makes them difficult to study in the first place" (Levi-Strauss 1976:30); that's why myths rather than folktales (fairytales in Propp's case) are the primary choice for structural analysis. Propp defends himself but his reply, as distinct from his arguments on Levi-Strauss's other charges, is based on the general observation of a scholar's right to decide what to study and on the nature of the process of theoretical thinking: "According to Levi- Strauss, a scholar first finds a method and then begins to think where to apply it; in my case it has been applied, regrettably, to wondertales,1 an area of little interest to the philosopher. But things never happen so in science; nor did they happen this way in my case" (Propp 1984:9). Propp's pathos is justified; however, to the real question posed by Levi-Strauss-is it possible to apply the morphological sequence discovered in fairytales to myths-Propp himself gives an affirmative answer. "There are myths based on the same morphological and compositional system as the wondertale. . . . At times they correspond, down to minute details, to the compositional system studied in Morphology of the Folktale. In some cases myth and wondertales have the same form" (Propp 1984:79). But if the structure-although only in some cases-is the same for both genres, Levi-Strauss's reproach makes sense: Propp's discovery of the morphological model is to a certain degree accidental regarding the genre of the analyzed material and could have been made on the material of myths as well. Thirty years later, Alan Dundes suggests "a form of constructive mediation" between the two great scholars who are "talking past one another" (Dundes 1997). As far as Levi- Strauss's argument regarding Propp's choice of fairytales instead of myths is concerned, Dundes is obviously on Propp's side: "The idea that a professional folklorist, a professor of folklore, did not know enough about myths to analyze them is, of course, preposterous, and it should come as no surprise to learn that Propp upon reading Levi- Strauss's review was insulted by the insinuation that he knew nothing about myth" (42). Dundes turns the question asked by the French scholar back to him; particularly, he demonstrates that the binary oppositions that, according to Levi-Strauss, determine the sequence of mythic events are found-by Levi-Strauss himself-in folktales as well as in myths. "If folktales are constructed on weaker oppositions than those found in myth, why did Levi-Strauss choose folktales rather than myths to demonstrate his theory of binary oppositions? It seems to me that Levi-Strauss is hoisted by his own petard! The obvious answer is that binary oppositions are just as strong in folktales as they are in myth" (46). The conflict is, indeed, mediated because Levi-Strauss's own discovery appears in this perspective as being indifferent-as well as Propp's discovery of the morphological model-to the genre of the material under study and, therefore, might have been made, and, in fact, according to Dundes, has been made, on the material of both genres: "This is not to say that Levi-Strauss does not analyze some myths in Mythologiques. …
论童话的超历史根源
在真实的民间故事世界里,上帝不需要费心安排一切,但这种秩序是自己产生的。体裁理论的一个方面是关于两种具有共同特征的不同体裁之间的边界问题。毫不夸张地说,在区分神话和民间故事时,这一特殊的方面变得至关重要——由于不可否认的相似性,自格林兄弟以来,民间文学学者都承认这两种类型之间存在着相似之处。在神话和民间故事之间划清界限的困难导致了民俗学理论中的各种误解。也许,最著名的是Propp/Levi- Strauss之争,其中一个分歧点与所研究材料的类型有关。根据列维-施特劳斯的观点,神话与民间故事的区别不是质的,而是“程度的不同”:“故事是微型神话,其中相同的对立被转移到较小的规模,这就是它们首先难以研究的原因”(列维-施特劳斯1976:30);这就是为什么神话而不是民间故事(普罗普的童话故事)是结构分析的主要选择。普罗普为自己辩护,但他的回答,与他对列维-施特劳斯的其他指控的论点不同,是基于对学者决定研究什么的权利和理论思考过程的本质的一般观察:“根据列维-施特劳斯的说法,学者首先找到一种方法,然后开始思考将其应用于何处;遗憾的是,在我的例子中,它被应用于奇妙的故事,一个哲学家不感兴趣的领域。但在科学中,事情从来不会这样发生;但我的情况并非如此”(Propp 1984:9)。普罗普的悲情是有道理的;然而,对于斯特劳斯-卡恩提出的真正问题,是否有可能将童话中发现的形态序列应用到神话中,普罗普本人给出了肯定的答案。“也有神话基于与神奇故事. . . .相同的形态和组成系统有时,它们连细微的细节都与《民间故事形态学》中所研究的构成系统相对应。在某些情况下,神话和奇迹具有相同的形式”(Propp 1984:79)。但是,如果结构——尽管只是在某些情况下——对于两种类型是相同的,列维-斯特劳斯的指责是有道理的:普罗普对形态模型的发现在某种程度上是偶然的,对于所分析的材料的类型来说,也可以是神话的材料。三十年后,Alan Dundes建议在这两位“各说各话”的伟大学者之间进行“一种建设性的调解”(Dundes 1997)。至于李维-施特劳斯关于普罗普选择童话而不是神话的论点,邓迪斯显然站在普罗普的一边:“一个专业的民俗学家,一个民俗学教授,对神话的了解不足以分析它们的想法当然是荒谬的,而且我们应该毫不奇怪,普罗普在阅读李维-施特劳斯的评论时,被暗示他对神话一无所知而受到侮辱”(42)。邓迪把法国学者问的问题反问了自己;他特别指出,根据列维-施特劳斯的观点,二元对立决定了神话事件的顺序,列维-施特劳斯本人在民间故事和神话中都发现了二元对立。“如果民间故事是建立在比神话更弱的对立之上的,为什么列维-斯特劳斯选择民间故事而不是神话来证明他的二元对立理论?”在我看来,列维-施特劳斯是被自己的脚吊起来的!显而易见的答案是,民间故事中的二元对立和神话中的二元对立一样强烈”(46)。这种冲突确实得到了调解,因为从这个角度来看,列维-施特劳斯自己的发现,以及普罗普对形态学模型的发现,似乎与所研究的材料的类型无关,因此,可能已经,事实上,根据邓德斯的说法,已经,在这两种类型的材料上:“这并不是说列维-施特劳斯没有分析《神话学》中的一些神话。…
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