“Stay Outraged”: A Conversation with Masha Gessen

M. Gessen
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“I like kitties and puppies and little animals,” Vladimir Putin told Masha Gessen in 2012. This was a strange way for the Russian president to start a conversation with a journalist whose scathing biography of him was receiving rave reviews around the world. When the two met, Gessen had just been fired as the editor of Vokrug Sveta, a popular science magazine, for refusing to cover one of Putin’s media stunts. (Putin had piloted a motorized hang glider while ostensibly escorting six endangered Siberian cranes to their winter homes.) Putin had reached out to offer Gessen her job back—apparently uninformed of her unflattering assessments of the former KGB officer. Gessen declined. She would never work “as a Kremlin appointee,” she explained later. (“Don’t make compromises” would become one of her six rules for surviving an autocracy.) Gessen was born in the Soviet Union, and moved to Boston with her family when she was 14. In 1991, she went back to Russia as a young reporter, and soon made her name as an LGBT rights activist and a Putin critic . In 2013, with the Kremlin threatening to take away the children of gay parents, she fled to the U.S. with her wife and kids. Since then, Gessen has written or co-edited four books, including The Brothers: The Road to an American Tragedy on the Tsarnaev brothers who carried out the Boston Marathon bombings. Having spent over two decades watching Russia slide into dictatorship, Gessen is now terrified of the damage President Donald Trump could do to American democracy. World Policy Journal spoke with Gessen about Putin, the U.S. media, and what citizens can do to protect a country from authoritarianism.
“保持愤怒”:与Masha Gessen的对话
“我喜欢小猫、小狗和小动物,”弗拉基米尔·普京在2012年告诉玛莎·格森。这位俄罗斯总统以这种奇怪的方式开始与一位记者的谈话,这位记者对他的严厉传记在世界各地受到了好评。两人相遇时,格森刚刚被大众科学杂志《Vokrug Sveta》的编辑解雇,原因是他拒绝报道普京在媒体上的一项噱头。(普京驾驶一架机动滑翔机,表面上是在护送六只濒临灭绝的西伯利亚鹤前往它们的冬季栖息地。)普京伸出手想让格森重新担任她的职务——显然他并不知道她对这位前克格勃官员的负面评价。Gessen拒绝了。她后来解释说,她永远不会“作为克里姆林宫任命的人”工作。(“不妥协”成为她在独裁统治下生存的六条准则之一。)格森出生在苏联,14岁时随家人搬到了波士顿。1991年,她以一名年轻记者的身份回到俄罗斯,并很快以LGBT权利活动家和普京批评者的身份成名。2013年,克里姆林宫威胁要带走同性恋父母的孩子,她带着妻子和孩子逃到了美国。从那以后,格森撰写或合编了四本书,包括《兄弟:美国悲剧之路》(The Brothers: The Road to an American Tragedy),讲述了制造波士顿马拉松爆炸案的萨纳耶夫兄弟。格森花了20多年的时间看着俄罗斯滑向独裁统治,现在他对唐纳德·特朗普总统可能对美国民主造成的损害感到恐惧。《世界政策杂志》采访了格森,讨论了普京、美国媒体以及公民可以做些什么来保护一个国家免受威权主义的侵害。
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