{"title":"Rejoinder of “On studying extreme values and systematic risks with nonlinear time series models and tail dependence measures”","authors":"Zhengjun Zhang","doi":"10.1080/24754269.2021.1871710","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"I am pleased that my review article has stimulated such broader and thoughtful discussions in probability theory, theoretical statistics, estimation methods, and applications. The discussants have made many excellent points. I appreciate the discussants’ interest in the reviewed contents and much broader theoretical and methodological topics related to extreme value study. In particular, Ji and Li (2021), find a way that one of the reviewed models can be extended to study the systematic risks in the Chinese stock market. Qi (2021) points out that the estimation of the static tail index parameter in the generalised extreme value distribution is still far from perfect, and then discusses three maximum likelihood estimations from Hall (1982), Peng and Qi (2009), and F. Wang et al. (2019) to handle the tail index that falls in different ranges. Smith (2021) offers a much more general view of the development of extreme value theory over the last thirty years. Readers can benefit from reading the discussions and the references discussed therein. T. Wang and Yan (2021) not only extend discussions to two extreme dependence measures introduced by Resnick (2004) and Davis and Mikosch (2009) but also point out some practical issues existed in many extreme value applications. Xu andWang (2021) show some interesting ideas of extending the tail quotient correlation coefficient to the conditional tail quotient correlation coefficient for conditional tail independence. They also outline some ideas of applying the new extreme value theory formaxima of maxima for high-dimensional inference, e.g., multiple testing problems. T. Zhang (2021a) focuses on time series extremes and advocates measuring the cumulative tail adversarial effect, i.e., the degree of serial tail dependence and the desired limit theorem in T. Zhang (2021b). My review is focussing on studying extreme values and systematic risks with nonlinear time series models and tail dependence measures, and of course, it is not the final word on the reviewed topics and the topics discussed by the discussants, and many other broad topics researched by the extreme value literature. I look forward to future developments in all of these areas. This rejoinder will further clarify some basic ideas behind each reviewed measures, models, their applications, and their further developments. Interpretability, computability, and testability. Some basic properties, such as interpretability, computability, predictability, stability, and testability, are often desired in statistical applications. In general, parametric models can satisfy these properties and are widely adopted. For example, linear regressions are the most popular models used daily, and Pearson’s linear correlation coefficient is the most commonly used dependence measure between two random variables. On the other hand, parametric models may not be general enough, and their models’ assumptions may not be satisfied. As a result, nonparametric (semi-parametric) models, random forest, deep learning models, and neural network models are preferred. However, these general and advanced models bring some difficulties in achieving some or all of the aforementioned desired properties. As to how to choose a model in practice, it depends on many factors. George Box stated that all models are wrong, but some are useful. There is a tradeoff between parametricmodels and nonparametricmodels.Wemay say that all models are useful, but the strengths vary with each individual. Analogs to linear regression and Pearson’s linear correlation coefficient are not yet well defined in the extreme value context. The extreme dependence measures discussed in T. Wang and Yan (2021) and the most popular coefficient of tail dependence measure η by Ledford and Tawn (1996, 1997) often involve nonparametric estimations. The quotient correlation coefficient (QCC) and the tail quotient correlation coefficient (TQCC)were introduced in Z. Zhang (2008) as alternative correlation measures to the linear correlation coefficient (LCC). It can be seen from Examples 3.1 and 3.2 in Z. 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Abstract
I am pleased that my review article has stimulated such broader and thoughtful discussions in probability theory, theoretical statistics, estimation methods, and applications. The discussants have made many excellent points. I appreciate the discussants’ interest in the reviewed contents and much broader theoretical and methodological topics related to extreme value study. In particular, Ji and Li (2021), find a way that one of the reviewed models can be extended to study the systematic risks in the Chinese stock market. Qi (2021) points out that the estimation of the static tail index parameter in the generalised extreme value distribution is still far from perfect, and then discusses three maximum likelihood estimations from Hall (1982), Peng and Qi (2009), and F. Wang et al. (2019) to handle the tail index that falls in different ranges. Smith (2021) offers a much more general view of the development of extreme value theory over the last thirty years. Readers can benefit from reading the discussions and the references discussed therein. T. Wang and Yan (2021) not only extend discussions to two extreme dependence measures introduced by Resnick (2004) and Davis and Mikosch (2009) but also point out some practical issues existed in many extreme value applications. Xu andWang (2021) show some interesting ideas of extending the tail quotient correlation coefficient to the conditional tail quotient correlation coefficient for conditional tail independence. They also outline some ideas of applying the new extreme value theory formaxima of maxima for high-dimensional inference, e.g., multiple testing problems. T. Zhang (2021a) focuses on time series extremes and advocates measuring the cumulative tail adversarial effect, i.e., the degree of serial tail dependence and the desired limit theorem in T. Zhang (2021b). My review is focussing on studying extreme values and systematic risks with nonlinear time series models and tail dependence measures, and of course, it is not the final word on the reviewed topics and the topics discussed by the discussants, and many other broad topics researched by the extreme value literature. I look forward to future developments in all of these areas. This rejoinder will further clarify some basic ideas behind each reviewed measures, models, their applications, and their further developments. Interpretability, computability, and testability. Some basic properties, such as interpretability, computability, predictability, stability, and testability, are often desired in statistical applications. In general, parametric models can satisfy these properties and are widely adopted. For example, linear regressions are the most popular models used daily, and Pearson’s linear correlation coefficient is the most commonly used dependence measure between two random variables. On the other hand, parametric models may not be general enough, and their models’ assumptions may not be satisfied. As a result, nonparametric (semi-parametric) models, random forest, deep learning models, and neural network models are preferred. However, these general and advanced models bring some difficulties in achieving some or all of the aforementioned desired properties. As to how to choose a model in practice, it depends on many factors. George Box stated that all models are wrong, but some are useful. There is a tradeoff between parametricmodels and nonparametricmodels.Wemay say that all models are useful, but the strengths vary with each individual. Analogs to linear regression and Pearson’s linear correlation coefficient are not yet well defined in the extreme value context. The extreme dependence measures discussed in T. Wang and Yan (2021) and the most popular coefficient of tail dependence measure η by Ledford and Tawn (1996, 1997) often involve nonparametric estimations. The quotient correlation coefficient (QCC) and the tail quotient correlation coefficient (TQCC)were introduced in Z. Zhang (2008) as alternative correlation measures to the linear correlation coefficient (LCC). It can be seen from Examples 3.1 and 3.2 in Z. Zhang (2020) the LCC is an absolute error based measure while QCC/TQCC is a relative error based
我很高兴我的评论文章在概率论、理论统计、估计方法和应用方面激发了如此广泛和深思熟虑的讨论。讨论者提出了许多很好的观点。我感谢各位讨论者对所讨论的内容以及与极值研究相关的更广泛的理论和方法主题的兴趣。特别是,Ji和Li(2021)找到了一种方法,可以将所审查的模型之一扩展到研究中国股票市场的系统性风险。Qi(2021)指出广义极值分布中静态尾指数参数的估计还很不完善,然后讨论了Hall(1982)、Peng and Qi(2009)和F. Wang et al.(2019)的三种最大似然估计,以处理落在不同范围的尾指数。Smith(2021)对过去三十年来极值理论的发展提供了更笼统的看法。读者可以从阅读讨论和参考文献中受益。T. Wang and Yan(2021)不仅将讨论扩展到Resnick(2004)和Davis and Mikosch(2009)引入的两种极端依赖测度,还指出了在许多极端值应用中存在的一些实际问题。Xu和wang(2021)提出了一些有趣的想法,将尾商相关系数扩展到条件尾商相关系数,以实现条件尾独立性。他们还概述了将新的极值理论的极大值形式应用于高维推理的一些想法,例如多重检验问题。T. Zhang (2021a)关注时间序列极值,主张测量累积尾对抗效应,即序列尾依赖程度和T. Zhang (2021b)的期望极限定理。我的评论主要集中在用非线性时间序列模型和尾部依赖度量来研究极值和系统风险,当然,这并不是对所审查的主题和讨论者讨论的主题的最终结论,也不是对极值文献研究的许多其他广泛主题的最终结论。我期待着所有这些领域的未来发展。本文将进一步阐明每个已回顾的度量、模型、它们的应用及其进一步发展背后的一些基本思想。可解释性、可计算性和可测试性。一些基本属性,如可解释性、可计算性、可预测性、稳定性和可测试性,在统计应用程序中通常是需要的。一般来说,参数化模型能够满足这些性质,被广泛采用。例如,线性回归是日常最常用的模型,皮尔逊线性相关系数是两个随机变量之间最常用的依赖度量。另一方面,参数模型可能不够通用,其模型的假设可能不被满足。因此,非参数(半参数)模型、随机森林、深度学习模型和神经网络模型是首选。然而,这些通用和高级模型在实现上述部分或全部期望属性方面带来了一些困难。至于在实践中如何选择一种模式,这取决于许多因素。George Box说所有的模型都是错误的,但有些是有用的。在参数模型和非参数模型之间存在权衡。我们可能会说所有的模型都是有用的,但是每个人的优势是不同的。类似线性回归和皮尔逊线性相关系数在极值上下文中还没有很好地定义。T. Wang和Yan(2021)讨论的极端依赖度量和Ledford和Tawn(1996, 1997)最流行的尾相关系数度量η通常涉及非参数估计。Zhang(2008)引入了商相关系数(QCC)和尾商相关系数(TQCC)作为线性相关系数(LCC)的替代相关测度。从Z. Zhang(2020)的示例3.1和3.2可以看出,LCC是基于绝对误差的度量,而QCC/TQCC是基于相对误差的度量