Response to the letter regarding our article, ‘Potential predisposing features of external cervical resorption: An observational study’ (Patel et al., 2025)
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Our use of ‘predisposing factor’ aligns with existing literature and epidemiological conventions to describe characteristics associated with a condition without implying direct causation. Importantly, we explicitly mentioned in the title that our study is ‘an observational study’, indicating that no causality can be expected from the findings. As an observational study, we explicitly state in our discussion that causality cannot be inferred and that the identified factors are associations rather than definitive causes.</p><p>The inclusion of cat ownership as a potential factor was, of course, based on limited preliminary evidence, and while the mechanism we referenced is speculative, it was meant to present a hypothesis for future research rather than a definitive causal relationship. We are confident that the study's conclusions, as framed, are appropriately cautious regarding these associations.</p><p>The reviewer raised valid points about the limitations of chi-squared tests in the context of complex, multivariable relationships, particularly with regard to confounding and clustering effects. Chi-squared analysis was employed to assess associations between categorical variables, a widely accepted method in exploratory epidemiological research. While we acknowledge that multivariable regression models could further adjust for confounders, our study aimed primarily to identify potential associations rather than to determine adjusted risk estimates. Future studies employing regression modelling and causal inference frameworks are likely to provide deeper insights.</p><p>The hierarchical structure of our data (patients and teeth) introduces clustering effects, and we agree that more advanced methods could address this more effectively. While chi-squared tests do not account for clustering, we would like to mention that 92.3% (179/194) of patients had only one tooth, which means there is no within-patient clustering for these individuals. This substantially reduces the potential for clustering effects since these patients contribute only a single observation. Additionally, 12 (6.2%) patients had two teeth and only 3 (1.5%) patients had four teeth. While there is some within-patient clustering for these patients (i.e. observations are not independent as the same patient contributes multiple data points), the proportion of patients with multiple teeth is small relative to the total number of patients. Therefore, the overall clustering effect is expected to be minimal.</p><p>There are valid concerns raised regarding the limitations of <i>p</i>-values, which reflect broader discussions in the field of statistical methodology. 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Abstract
Thank you for providing the opportunity to respond to the letter regarding our article, ‘Potential Predisposing Features of External Cervical Resorption: An Observational Study’ (Patel et al., 2025). The thoughtful and constructive critique is appreciated and as authors we would like to address the concerns raised in the letter.
The concern regarding the use of the term ‘predisposing factor’ in the context of a cross-sectional study is duly noted. We acknowledge the importance of precise language in scientific discourse. Our use of ‘predisposing factor’ aligns with existing literature and epidemiological conventions to describe characteristics associated with a condition without implying direct causation. Importantly, we explicitly mentioned in the title that our study is ‘an observational study’, indicating that no causality can be expected from the findings. As an observational study, we explicitly state in our discussion that causality cannot be inferred and that the identified factors are associations rather than definitive causes.
The inclusion of cat ownership as a potential factor was, of course, based on limited preliminary evidence, and while the mechanism we referenced is speculative, it was meant to present a hypothesis for future research rather than a definitive causal relationship. We are confident that the study's conclusions, as framed, are appropriately cautious regarding these associations.
The reviewer raised valid points about the limitations of chi-squared tests in the context of complex, multivariable relationships, particularly with regard to confounding and clustering effects. Chi-squared analysis was employed to assess associations between categorical variables, a widely accepted method in exploratory epidemiological research. While we acknowledge that multivariable regression models could further adjust for confounders, our study aimed primarily to identify potential associations rather than to determine adjusted risk estimates. Future studies employing regression modelling and causal inference frameworks are likely to provide deeper insights.
The hierarchical structure of our data (patients and teeth) introduces clustering effects, and we agree that more advanced methods could address this more effectively. While chi-squared tests do not account for clustering, we would like to mention that 92.3% (179/194) of patients had only one tooth, which means there is no within-patient clustering for these individuals. This substantially reduces the potential for clustering effects since these patients contribute only a single observation. Additionally, 12 (6.2%) patients had two teeth and only 3 (1.5%) patients had four teeth. While there is some within-patient clustering for these patients (i.e. observations are not independent as the same patient contributes multiple data points), the proportion of patients with multiple teeth is small relative to the total number of patients. Therefore, the overall clustering effect is expected to be minimal.
There are valid concerns raised regarding the limitations of p-values, which reflect broader discussions in the field of statistical methodology. In our study, p-values were employed as a measure of statistical significance, and we fully acknowledge that p-values, in isolation, do not capture the magnitude or clinical relevance of an effect. Our decision to report p-values was based on their standard use in hypothesis testing, consistent with common practice in similar observational studies. However, we recognize that p-values do not provide a comprehensive assessment of the strength or direction of associations.
In light of the sample size of 215 participants in our study, we note that the p-value is less likely to be unduly influenced by sample size, as might be the case in studies with much larger sample sizes, which can detect minute differences that may not be of practical significance. Our sample size allows for a more meaningful and balanced interpretation of statistical significance, minimizing the risk of detecting trivial effects that could be magnified in studies with thousands of participants. Consequently, the p-value in our study is reflective of the true effect, rather than being disproportionately affected by the sample size.
The concern regarding multiple comparisons and the potential for false positives is certainly a valid consideration in epidemiological research. In this study, we acknowledge that multiple statistical tests were conducted. However, the exploratory nature of the research was not intended to make definitive claims about the relationships between the variables, but rather to identify potential associations for further study. The study was designed with this in mind, and the results should be interpreted as suggestive rather than conclusive. We do not consider the p-values in isolation but in the broader context of the existing literature on external cervical resorption.
We believe that the methodology employed in our study was appropriate to address the research questions and that we used the correct study design. The use of chi-squared tests, the reporting of p-values and the exploration of potential associations were all consistent with accepted practices in observational research. Our study should be viewed as an initial investigation into the potential factors associated with external cervical resorption, and we stand by the rigor of the analysis presented.
We hope that our response clarifies the rationale behind our methodology and provides context for the decisions made. We appreciate the opportunity to address these concerns and are grateful for the continued interest in our work.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Shanon Patel.
The authors deny any conflicts of interest.
No ethical approval or informed consent is required.
对我们文章“颈椎外吸收的潜在诱发特征:一项观察性研究”的回复(Patel et al., 2025)。
感谢您提供机会回复我们的文章“宫颈外吸收的潜在易感特征:一项观察性研究”(Patel et al., 2025)。感谢您的周到和建设性的批评,作为作者,我们希望解决这封信中提出的问题。适当注意到在横断面研究中使用“诱发因素”一词的问题。我们承认科学话语中精确语言的重要性。我们使用的“诱发因素”与现有文献和流行病学惯例一致,以描述与疾病相关的特征,而不暗示直接因果关系。重要的是,我们在标题中明确提到我们的研究是“一项观察性研究”,这表明研究结果中没有因果关系。作为一项观察性研究,我们在讨论中明确指出,因果关系不能推断,确定的因素是关联而不是确定的原因。当然,将养猫作为一个潜在因素纳入研究是基于有限的初步证据,虽然我们引用的机制是推测性的,但它是为了为未来的研究提供一个假设,而不是明确的因果关系。我们相信,这项研究的结论,就其框架而言,对这些关联是适当谨慎的。审稿人提出了关于卡方检验在复杂、多变量关系背景下的局限性的有效观点,特别是在混杂和聚类效应方面。采用卡方分析来评估分类变量之间的相关性,这是一种在探索性流行病学研究中广泛接受的方法。虽然我们承认多变量回归模型可以进一步调整混杂因素,但我们的研究主要是为了确定潜在的关联,而不是确定调整后的风险估计。采用回归模型和因果推理框架的未来研究可能会提供更深入的见解。我们的数据(患者和牙齿)的层次结构引入了聚类效应,我们同意更先进的方法可以更有效地解决这个问题。虽然卡方检验不能解释聚类,但我们想提到的是,92.3%(179/194)的患者只有一颗牙齿,这意味着这些个体没有患者内部聚类。这大大减少了聚类效应的可能性,因为这些患者只贡献了一次观察。2牙12例(6.2%),4牙3例(1.5%)。虽然这些患者存在一些患者内聚类(即观察结果不是独立的,因为同一患者提供了多个数据点),但与患者总数相比,多牙患者的比例很小。因此,总体聚类效应预计是最小的。关于p值的局限性提出了合理的关切,这反映了统计方法学领域更广泛的讨论。在我们的研究中,p值被用作统计显著性的度量,我们完全承认,p值孤立地不能捕获效应的大小或临床相关性。我们报告p值的决定是基于它们在假设检验中的标准用法,与类似观察性研究中的常见做法一致。然而,我们认识到p值不能提供对关联强度或方向的全面评估。根据我们研究中215名参与者的样本量,我们注意到p值不太可能受到样本量的过度影响,就像在样本量大得多的研究中可能出现的情况一样,这可以检测到可能不具有实际意义的微小差异。我们的样本量允许对统计显著性进行更有意义和平衡的解释,最大限度地降低检测到可能在数千名参与者的研究中被放大的微不足道影响的风险。因此,我们研究中的p值反映了真实效果,而不是不成比例地受到样本量的影响。在流行病学研究中,对多重比较和假阳性可能性的关注当然是一个有效的考虑因素。在这项研究中,我们承认进行了多次统计检验。然而,该研究的探索性并不是为了确定变量之间的关系,而是为了确定进一步研究的潜在联系。这项研究的设计考虑到了这一点,结果应该被解释为暗示性的,而不是决定性的。我们不是孤立地考虑p值,而是在现有的关于宫颈外吸收的文献的更广泛的背景下考虑p值。 我们相信在我们的研究中使用的方法是适当的,以解决研究问题,我们使用了正确的研究设计。卡方检验的使用、p值的报告和潜在关联的探索都与观察性研究中公认的做法一致。我们的研究应被视为对与宫颈外吸收相关的潜在因素的初步调查,我们坚持所提出的分析的严谨性。我们希望我们的答复澄清了我们的方法背后的理由,并为所作的决定提供了背景。我们感谢有机会解决这些关切,并感谢继续对我们的工作感兴趣。感谢您的时间和考虑。真诚,香农·帕特尔。作者否认有任何利益冲突。不需要伦理批准或知情同意。
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