Nietzsche on suffering and morality

Robert Shaver
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Nietzsche claims that suffering is needed for achievement. Morality, he thinks, aims to end suffering, and so would end achievement. I argue that at best some achievements are partly caused by suffering. Nietzsche could get a more secure connection between suffering and achievement by arguing that some achievements are constituted in part by suffering. But in both the causal and constitutive cases, moralists do not condemn inflicting on oneself the suffering involved in achievement. Nietzsche could instead argue, more simply, that morality is mistaken to think suffering is bad. He could deploy a ‘conditionality’ view of organic wholes, on which the value of suffering changes when part of an achievement, to argue that in some cases, suffering is good. I argue that here the conditionality view is less plausible than Moore's view of organic wholes, on which suffering would remain bad.
尼采论痛苦与道德
尼采认为,成就需要痛苦。他认为,道德的目的是结束痛苦,从而结束成就。我认为,某些成就充其量只是部分由苦难造成的。尼采可以通过论证某些成就部分是由苦难构成的,从而在苦难与成就之间建立更稳固的联系。但无论是因果关系还是构成关系,道德家都不会谴责在成就中给自己带来痛苦。尼采可以更简单地指出,认为痛苦是坏事的道德观是错误的。他可以运用有机整体的 "条件性 "观点,即当痛苦是成就的一部分时,痛苦的价值就会发生变化,从而论证在某些情况下,痛苦是好的。我认为,在这里,"条件性 "观点不如摩尔的 "有机整体 "观点可信,因为根据摩尔的有机整体观点,痛苦仍然是不好的。
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