True Crime: An Interview with George Elliott Clarke

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Nathan L. Grant
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That was a big issue for us, and also a lot of fun—but also a lot of work for you, so I hope it was also fun!—once again, many thanks.</p> <strong>GEC:</strong> <p>I don’t say this to curry favor, but <strong><em>African American Review</em></strong> —along with <em>Callaloo</em> —was a dynamic factor in my (race) consciousness and on my moral conscience when I began to articulate the distinct existence of African Canadian literature within the larger frame of African diasporic literature while I was a junior professor at Duke from 1994 to 1999. I remain also very <strong>[End Page 157]</strong> grateful for a landmark review of <em>Whylah Falls</em> that appeared in <strong><em>AAR</em></strong> .<sup>1</sup> It’s been a privilege to appear in its pages as poet and as scholar.</p> <strong>NLG:</strong> <p>And so we meet again, but this time under less felicitous circumstances, unfortunately. 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  • True Crime: An Interview with George Elliott Clarke
  • Nathan L. Grant (bio)

George Elliott Clarke, OC ONS* is one of Canada’s most important literary artists, distinguished in poetry, prose, and drama. An internationally known figure of letters, he has lectured, taught, and read across Canada, in the United States, and Europe. From 2012 to 2015, he was Poet Laureate of Toronto, and for 2016–17, he was the Canadian Parliamentary Poet Laureate. He is also widely known for his writings about the history of the African Canadian communities of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, which he calls “Africadia”; he graced AAR ’s pages as guest editor of a critical and poetical special issue on the Africadian experience, or African Canadianité.

In our catching up, I learned of this latest episode of his career, and we corresponded for this interview via email this past November.

Nathan L. Grant:

Just for the sake of background, we first met briefly in the mid-1990s, when you were part of an MLA panel of African Canadian writers; you were there with Cecil Foster, Afua Cooper, and a fourth, another woman writer, whom I regret I don’t now remember—could it have been Dionne Brand, perhaps? Your then-most recent collection of poetry, W hylah Falls, had just been released.

George Elliott Clarke:

Nathan, your recollection is better than mine. I believe that you are thinking of an MLA panel that occurred in Toronto in December 1993. My second book of poetry—Whylah Falls (Polestar, 1990)— was still young (yet, I’m thankful that, a Jesus-age—thirty-three years—later, it remains in print), and I do remember sharing the recitation stage with Cecil Foster and Afua Cooper. I don’t recall Dionne’s presence. No matter: If she was absent, her corpus—her work—would still have resonated.

NLG:

Anyway, years later you came to guest-edit an AAR special issue on African Canadianité in volume 51.3 (Fall 2018). That was our second intellectual venture beyond the United States, and you were also guest-editing from various points across Europe, I believe. That was a big issue for us, and also a lot of fun—but also a lot of work for you, so I hope it was also fun!—once again, many thanks.

GEC:

I don’t say this to curry favor, but African American Review —along with Callaloo —was a dynamic factor in my (race) consciousness and on my moral conscience when I began to articulate the distinct existence of African Canadian literature within the larger frame of African diasporic literature while I was a junior professor at Duke from 1994 to 1999. I remain also very [End Page 157] grateful for a landmark review of Whylah Falls that appeared in AAR .1 It’s been a privilege to appear in its pages as poet and as scholar.

NLG:

And so we meet again, but this time under less felicitous circumstances, unfortunately. Your very most recent work—or one of them, J’Accuse. . .! — was written out of a kind of necessity, and it also shouldn’t be lost that you were writing it during the pandemic. But can you talk about what compelled you to write it?

GEC:

Yes, as you say, J’Accuse. . .! is a whole book “written out of a kind of necessity,” and so your question solicits a book-length answer! But here’s the shortest reply.

In autumn 2019, I was invited to give a lecture at the University of Regina (in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada), for January 23, 2020. I dreamt I’d thunder against a most grievous social injustice, namely, the murders and disappearances (likely also by murder) of Indigenous (Amerindian Canadian) women. I planned to explore writings by a quartet of Saskatchewan resident (or Native-born) poets, Indigenous and Settler (white), and male and female, for what their verses could tell us about racism and misogyny endured by Saskatchewan Indigenous women, but also for what the poetry could reveal about Saskatchewan Settler intelligentsia (artists, scholars, judges, etc.) attitudes regarding these women.

I felt moved to explore this topic because I am—like many African Canadians (and African Americans)—part Cherokee (a...

真实犯罪乔治-埃利奥特-克拉克访谈录
以下是内容的简要摘录,以代替摘要: 真实的犯罪:乔治-埃利奥特-克拉克(George Elliott Clarke, OC ONS*)是加拿大最重要的文学艺术家之一,在诗歌、散文和戏剧方面成就卓著。作为国际知名的文学家,他曾在加拿大、美国和欧洲各地演讲、授课和朗诵。2012 年至 2015 年,他担任多伦多桂冠诗人,2016 年至 2017 年,他担任加拿大国会桂冠诗人。他还因撰写新斯科舍省和新不伦瑞克省非裔加拿大人社区的历史而广为人知,他称之为 "阿非利加"(Africadia);他曾作为客座编辑在《非裔加拿大人》(AAR)的版面上发表过关于阿非利加人经历(或称 "非裔加拿大人")的评论和诗歌特刊。去年 11 月,我们通过电子邮件进行了这次采访。内森-L-格兰特你当时和塞西尔-福斯特(Cecil Foster)、阿福阿-库珀(Afua Cooper)以及第四位女作家在一起。您当时的最新诗集《W hylah Falls》刚刚出版。乔治-埃利奥特-克拉克内森,你的回忆比我好。我相信你想到的是 1993 年 12 月在多伦多举行的文学和艺术协会小组会议。我的第二本诗集--《怀拉瀑布》(Polestar, 1990 年)--当时还很年轻(然而,我很庆幸,在耶稣时代过去 33 年后,这本书仍在印刷中),我确实记得我与塞西尔-福斯特(Cecil Foster)和阿福阿-库珀(Afua Cooper)同台朗诵。我不记得迪翁在场。没关系:如果她不在场,她的作品仍会引起共鸣。北青报:总之,多年后,你来客座编辑了《非裔加拿大人》特刊,收录在第51.3卷(2018年秋季)。那是我们在美国之外的第二次知识冒险,我相信你也在欧洲各地担任客座编辑。这对我们来说是一个大问题,也很有趣--但对你来说也是一项工作,所以我希望这也很有趣!--再次,非常感谢。GEC:我这么说并不是为了讨好你,但《非裔美国人评论》(African American Review)--以及《Callaloo》--是我的种族意识和道德良知中的一个活跃因素,当我从 1994 年到 1999 年在杜克大学担任初级教授期间,开始在非洲散居地文学的更大框架内阐明非裔加拿大人文学的独特存在时,《非裔美国人评论》就是我的种族意识和道德良知中的一个活跃因素。我还非常 [第 157 页完] 感谢《非裔加拿大人文学》(AAR)1 发表的一篇关于《惠拉瀑布》的具有里程碑意义的评论,能够以诗人和学者的身份出现在《非裔加拿大人文学》的版面上,我深感荣幸。NLG: 我们又见面了,但很遗憾,这次是在不太愉快的情况下。你最近的作品--或者说其中之一《J'Accuse.. .!- 是出于一种需要而写的,而且你是在大流行病期间写这本书的,这一点也不应该被遗忘。但你能谈谈是什么迫使你写这部作品的吗?GEC: 是的,正如你所说,《J'Accuse.. .!......!》是一本 "出于某种需要 "而写的书,所以你的问题需要一本书的篇幅来回答!不过,我在这里做一个最简短的回答。2019 年秋天,我受邀于 2020 年 1 月 23 日在里贾纳大学(位于加拿大萨斯喀彻温省里贾纳市)发表演讲。我梦见我将以雷鸣般的声音反对最严重的社会不公,即土著(美洲印第安人加拿大)妇女的谋杀和失踪(也可能是谋杀)。我计划探讨四位萨斯喀彻温省居民(或土生土长的)诗人的作品,其中既有土著诗人,也有定居者(白人)诗人,既有男性诗人,也有女性诗人,看看他们的诗句能告诉我们萨斯喀彻温省土著妇女所遭受的种族主义和厌女症,同时也看看这些诗句能揭示萨斯喀彻温省定居者知识分子(艺术家、学者、法官等)对这些妇女的态度。我对探讨这一主题很感兴趣,因为我和许多非裔加拿大人(和非裔美国人)一样,也是切罗基人的一部分(我的祖先是切罗基人)。
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期刊介绍: As the official publication of the Division on Black American Literature and Culture of the Modern Language Association, the quarterly journal African American Review promotes a lively exchange among writers and scholars in the arts, humanities, and social sciences who hold diverse perspectives on African American literature and culture. Between 1967 and 1976, the journal appeared under the title Negro American Literature Forum and for the next fifteen years was titled Black American Literature Forum. In 1992, African American Review changed its name for a third time and expanded its mission to include the study of a broader array of cultural formations.
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