Pathos with a Point

L. Hau
{"title":"Pathos with a Point","authors":"L. Hau","doi":"10.1093/oso/9780198848295.003.0005","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"This chapter discusses accounts of violence in so-called tragic history and suggests that this Hellenistic subgenre may better be understood as an attempt to write experiential history. It begins with defining what characterized ‘tragic’ or ‘sensationalist’ accounts of violence and atrocities, taking Diodorus Siculus’ account of the sack of Selinus (Diod. Sic. 13.57) as its case study, comparing it with passages of Thucydides and Polybius to illustrate the differences. The second part of the chapter examines the possible purpose with such experiential representations of atrocities. It proceeds by examining Polybius’ famous criticism of Phylarchus for confusing history and tragedy (Plb. 2.56) as well as fragment 21 of Agatharchides’ On the Red Sea, which discusses the correct way to write about disasters, and finally some of Diodorus’ many remarks on the didactic purpose of historiography. It concludes that the ‘tragic’ historiographers, like Thucydides and Polybius, considered their works (moral-)didactic and believed that certain things can best be learned through an experiential representation. In the third and final part of the chapter, this ideal is compared with modern history writing and parallels are drawn both with the presentist/experientialist movement and with the call from some quarters for historians to take a moral stand on their subject matter, particularly when writing about atrocities.","PeriodicalId":246618,"journal":{"name":"Experience, Narrative, and Criticism in Ancient Greece","volume":"1 1","pages":"0"},"PeriodicalIF":0.0000,"publicationDate":"2019-12-09","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":null,"platform":"Semanticscholar","paperid":null,"PeriodicalName":"Experience, Narrative, and Criticism in Ancient Greece","FirstCategoryId":"1085","ListUrlMain":"https://doi.org/10.1093/oso/9780198848295.003.0005","RegionNum":0,"RegionCategory":null,"ArticlePicture":[],"TitleCN":null,"AbstractTextCN":null,"PMCID":null,"EPubDate":"","PubModel":"","JCR":"","JCRName":"","Score":null,"Total":0}
引用次数: 0

Abstract

This chapter discusses accounts of violence in so-called tragic history and suggests that this Hellenistic subgenre may better be understood as an attempt to write experiential history. It begins with defining what characterized ‘tragic’ or ‘sensationalist’ accounts of violence and atrocities, taking Diodorus Siculus’ account of the sack of Selinus (Diod. Sic. 13.57) as its case study, comparing it with passages of Thucydides and Polybius to illustrate the differences. The second part of the chapter examines the possible purpose with such experiential representations of atrocities. It proceeds by examining Polybius’ famous criticism of Phylarchus for confusing history and tragedy (Plb. 2.56) as well as fragment 21 of Agatharchides’ On the Red Sea, which discusses the correct way to write about disasters, and finally some of Diodorus’ many remarks on the didactic purpose of historiography. It concludes that the ‘tragic’ historiographers, like Thucydides and Polybius, considered their works (moral-)didactic and believed that certain things can best be learned through an experiential representation. In the third and final part of the chapter, this ideal is compared with modern history writing and parallels are drawn both with the presentist/experientialist movement and with the call from some quarters for historians to take a moral stand on their subject matter, particularly when writing about atrocities.
有点悲
这一章讨论了所谓的悲剧历史中的暴力,并建议这种希腊化的亚类型可能更好地被理解为一种尝试写经验的历史。它首先定义了暴力和暴行的“悲剧性”或“耸人听闻性”的描述,以狄奥多罗斯·西库鲁斯对塞利努斯(狄奥多罗斯·西库鲁斯)之袋的描述为例。Sic. 13.57)作为案例研究,将其与修昔底德和波利比乌斯的段落进行比较,以说明两者的差异。本章的第二部分考察了这种暴行的经验表征的可能目的。它首先考察了波利比乌斯对菲拉库斯混淆历史和悲剧的著名批评(Plb. 2.56),以及阿加达基德的《红海》第21段,其中讨论了写灾难的正确方法,最后考察了迪奥多罗斯对史学教学目的的许多评论。它的结论是,“悲剧”历史学家,如修昔底德和波利比乌斯,认为他们的作品(道德)说教,并相信某些事情可以最好地通过经验的表现来学习。在本章的第三部分,也是最后一部分,这种理想与现代历史写作进行了比较,并与现在主义/经验主义运动以及某些方面要求历史学家在他们的主题上采取道德立场的呼吁进行了比较,特别是在撰写暴行时。
本文章由计算机程序翻译,如有差异,请以英文原文为准。
求助全文
约1分钟内获得全文 求助全文
来源期刊
自引率
0.00%
发文量
0
×
引用
GB/T 7714-2015
复制
MLA
复制
APA
复制
导出至
BibTeX EndNote RefMan NoteFirst NoteExpress
×
提示
您的信息不完整,为了账户安全,请先补充。
现在去补充
×
提示
您因"违规操作"
具体请查看互助需知
我知道了
×
提示
确定
请完成安全验证×
copy
已复制链接
快去分享给好友吧!
我知道了
右上角分享
点击右上角分享
0
联系我们:info@booksci.cn Book学术提供免费学术资源搜索服务,方便国内外学者检索中英文文献。致力于提供最便捷和优质的服务体验。 Copyright © 2023 布克学术 All rights reserved.
京ICP备2023020795号-1
ghs 京公网安备 11010802042870号
Book学术文献互助
Book学术文献互助群
群 号:481959085
Book学术官方微信