Session II: The Impact of International Copyright Treaties and Trade Agreements on the Development of Domestic Norms (Eric Schwartz)

Eric P. Schwartz
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Let me begin by saying thank you Pippa, and thank you to my friends Jane Ginsburg and June Besek for inviting me here. It is always an honor to be back at the Kernochan Center. I had the pleasure of knowing Jack Kernochan and working and learning from him, so it is a personal pleasure as well to be here. Pippa and others posed a few questions to us, and the other speakers on the first panel who have addressed some of these issues. I am going to put my own gloss on the questions. The first was, “How do the copyright treaties and trade agreements affect national IP laws in the U.S. and elsewhere?” And I guess the real question is: are norms even being set by the treaties and trade agreements? Let me just start with the basics for the students in the room who may be unfamiliar with international copyright law. First, there is no such thing as international copyright law. I always put “international” in quotes. International copyright is an interlocking set of national laws for which the treaties set norms— often floors (minimum levels of protection). That is what happens when you get lots of countries in one room trying to agree on what the levels of protection and enforcement—and whatever else—should be – minimum sets of norms.1 The most difficult part of putting the treaties into force is not the treaty language; it is the implementation of the treaties in the national laws. If you look at the history of the treaties—as Karyn has provided, and Steven Metalitz and Probir Mehta have talked about—there is a long lag time between the treaties being completed and being enacted into national laws.2 Another basic point: I spent my formative years at the U.S. Copyright Office negotiating trade agreements, both bilaterals and multilateral agreements. One constant I found is that no country agrees to anything unless they want to. That is just a basic observation, for example, it was part of the U.S.-Soviet Trade Agreement that granted the Soviets “most favoured nation” trade status in exchange for an IP chapter; that agreement was signed by President Bush and Gorbachev.3 The idea is
第二部分:国际版权条约和贸易协定对国内规范发展的影响(埃里克·施瓦茨)
首先,我要感谢你,皮帕,感谢我的朋友简·金斯伯格和琼·贝塞克邀请我来这里。能回到克诺尚中心一直是我的荣幸。我很高兴认识杰克·克诺尚,并向他工作和学习,所以来到这里也是我个人的荣幸。Pippa和其他人向我们提出了一些问题,第一个小组的其他演讲者也谈到了这些问题。我将对这些问题给出我自己的解释。第一个问题是,“版权条约和贸易协定如何影响美国和其他地方的国家知识产权法?”我想真正的问题是:条约和贸易协定是否制定了规范?让我先从一些基础知识开始给在座的不熟悉国际版权法的同学。首先,没有所谓的国际版权法。我总是把“国际”加引号。国际版权是一套环环相扣的国家法律,条约为这些法律制定了规范——通常是最低限度(保护水平)。当你让许多国家聚在一个房间里,试图就保护和执法的水平——以及其他什么——应该达到的最低标准达成一致时,就会发生这种情况使条约生效最困难的部分不是条约的语言;它是条约在国家法律中的执行。如果你看看这些条约的历史——正如Karyn所提供的,以及Steven Metalitz和Probir Mehta所谈到的——在条约完成和被制定为国家法律之间有很长的滞后时间另一个基本观点是:我在美国版权局(U.S. Copyright Office)从事贸易协定谈判,包括双边和多边协定。我发现一个不变的现象是,除非国家愿意,否则他们不会同意任何事情。这只是一个基本的观察,例如,美苏贸易协定赋予苏联“最惠国”贸易地位,以换取知识产权章节;那个协议是由布什总统和戈尔巴乔夫总统签署的
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