“SPEAKING OF THE OTHER, DESCRIBING THE OTHER, THE OBSERVER REPORTS MUCH MORE ABOUT HIMSELF”. Ekaterina Boltunova’s Interview with Maria Leskinen

M. Leskinen, E. Boltunova
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With the permission of the editorial board of the journal Historical expertise we publish the interview with Maria Voittovna Leskinen, Doctor of Historical Sciences, lead researcher of the Institute for Slavic Studies of the Russian Academy of Science. She was interviewed by Ekaterina Mikhailovna Boltunova, Doctor of Historical Sciences, professor, head of the International Laboratory for the Regional History of Russia in the National Research University Higher School of Economics. The text of the interview was first published on the website of the journal Historical expertise in the April 2021 and hasn’t been printed before. Area of Maria Leskinen’s expertise is study of the images and perceptions of ethnocultural distinctivness of the peoples in the public and scientifi c discources. She analyzed the issues of formation of the Polish Sarmatian ideology of the 16th–17th centuries, also history and evolution of the hetero- and autostereotypes of the Poles and Finns in the ethnological and educational conceptions of the Russian Empire in the second half of the 19th century. Her last papers are dedicated to reconstruction of the perceptions of Great Russians and Little Russians as the „branches“ of the triune Russian people by russian academic community, and also to the debates about the ways of representation of the ideal type of a Great Russian during the period of emperial nationmaking. The interview touches on an issue of situation with reviewing in the national historical science, its quality and the state of the professional critisizing and polemic.
"谈到他人,描述他人,观察者更多地是在描述自己"Ekaterina Boltunova采访Maria Leskinen
经《历史专家》杂志编辑委员会许可,我们发表了对Maria Voittovna Leskinen的采访,Maria Voittovna Leskinen是历史科学博士,俄罗斯科学院斯拉夫研究所首席研究员。她接受了叶卡捷琳娜·米哈伊洛夫娜·博尔图诺娃的采访。叶卡捷琳娜·博尔图诺娃是俄罗斯国立研究型大学高等经济学院历史科学博士、教授、俄罗斯地区历史国际实验室负责人。采访内容于2021年4月首次发表在《历史专业》杂志的网站上,此前从未发表过。Maria Leskinen的专业领域是研究公众和科学话语中民族文化独特性的形象和感知。她分析了16 - 17世纪波兰萨尔马西亚意识形态的形成问题,以及19世纪下半叶俄罗斯帝国民族学和教育观念中波兰人和芬兰人的异种和自我定型的历史和演变。她的最后几篇论文致力于重建俄罗斯学术界对大俄罗斯人和小俄罗斯人作为三位一体俄罗斯人的“分支”的看法,以及在帝国建国时期关于大俄罗斯人理想类型的表现方式的争论。访谈涉及到国史科学的现状与回顾,其质量与专业批评与争论的现状。
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