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Askar from Masatha Company in Iraq for SCL during 2017 without conducting any Unconfined Compression Strength (UCS) test and the other reports (about 75) were written by Dr. Alshkane as a consultant geotechnical engineer for SCL since 2018. During that period (2018 and 2019) only five Unconfined Compression Strength (UCS) tests (see Table 1) were conducted on undisturbed samples which were obtained by Shelby Tube sampler because the consistency of fine-grained soils in Sulaimani city is very hard and is mostly difficult to obtain undisturbed samples using Shelby Tube for UCS and density tests. Dr. Alshkane has only relied on Standard Penetration Tests (SPT) and plasticity index to determine the allowable bearing capacity of building foundations. In addition, the Sulaimani Constructional Laboratories (SCL) have not conducted any hydrometer tests and swelling tests for building projects and the plasticity chart was only used to find the type of fine-grained soils. The data of the paper by Ahmed et al. (2020b) are fabricated and do not represent the geotechnical properties of Sulaimani city. The authors stated that Equation (1) (presented in two forms: see Table 1 and Equation (6) by Ahmed et al. 2020b) was developed based on data collected from literature (374 data) and the geotechnical reports of Sulaimani city (630 data), but they did not give the details and the sources of the collected data from literature although their study should focus on soils of Sulaimani city as mentioned in the paper title which is the focus of their study. The range of the measured Su for Sulaimani soil was between 10 and 115 kPa whereas according to Figure 13 (Ahmed et al. 2020b) the range was from about 30 to 100 kPa. This range is not true for Sulaimani city soils (see Tables 1 and 2) because finegrained soils are generally hard and their SPT (N) is more than 10 according to our knowledge and based on Table 1 which presents that the range is from 34.5 to 324 kPa, the latter number indicates a very hard clay soil.","PeriodicalId":46470,"journal":{"name":"Geomechanics and Geoengineering-An International Journal","volume":null,"pages":null},"PeriodicalIF":1.7000,"publicationDate":"2021-06-24","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"https://sci-hub-pdf.com/10.1080/17486025.2021.1940311","citationCount":"0","resultStr":"{\"title\":\"Discussion on ‘ArcGIS mapping, characterisations and modelling the physical and mechanical properties of the Sulaimani City soils, Kurdistan Region’ by Ahmed et al. (2020b)\",\"authors\":\"Y. Alshkane, K. 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Ahmed et al. (2020b)这篇论文的结果和结论非常令人困惑,因为这篇论文的信息与Ahmed et al. (2020a)最近发表的一篇关于伊拉克苏莱曼尼市土壤岩土力学性质预测的论文非常相似。作者提到,他们从2017年至2019年期间的岩土报告中收集了大约630个无侧限抗压强度(UCS)测试数据和密度测试数据,这些数据是由苏莱曼尼市建筑和住房部/苏莱曼尼建筑实验室(SCL)在2017年至2019年期间挤压、测试和报告的。我们谨通知,在此期间,这些报告中只有三份是由梅松·赫博士撰写的。2017年,来自伊拉克Masatha公司的Askar为SCL进行了无侧限抗压强度(UCS)测试,其他报告(约75份)由Alshkane博士自2018年以来作为SCL的岩土工程顾问撰写。在此期间(2018年和2019年),由于苏莱曼尼市细粒土的稠度非常硬,使用谢尔比管取样器进行无侧限抗压强度(UCS)和密度测试时难以获得未受干扰的样品,因此仅对谢尔比管取样器获得的原状样品进行了5次无侧限抗压强度(UCS)测试(见表1)。Alshkane博士仅依靠标准渗透试验(SPT)和塑性指数来确定建筑基础的允许承载能力。此外,苏莱曼尼建筑实验室(SCL)没有对建筑项目进行任何比重计测试和膨胀测试,塑性图仅用于寻找细粒土壤的类型。Ahmed et al. (2020b)的论文数据是捏造的,并不代表苏莱曼尼市的岩土特性。作者表示,公式(1)(有表1和Ahmed et al. 2020b的公式(6)两种形式)是根据文献收集的数据(374份数据)和苏莱曼尼市岩土报告(630份数据)得出的,但他们的研究重点是论文标题中提到的苏莱曼尼市土壤,但他们并没有给出文献收集数据的细节和来源。苏莱曼尼土壤测得的苏压力范围在10 - 115 kPa之间,而根据图13 (Ahmed et al. 2020b),苏压力范围约为30 - 100 kPa。这个范围并不适用于苏莱曼尼城市土壤(见表1和表2),因为细粒土壤通常很硬,根据我们的知识,它们的SPT (N)大于10,根据表1,SPT (N)的范围在34.5到324 kPa之间,后者的数字表明粘土非常硬。
Discussion on ‘ArcGIS mapping, characterisations and modelling the physical and mechanical properties of the Sulaimani City soils, Kurdistan Region’ by Ahmed et al. (2020b)
The results and conclusions of the paper by Ahmed et al. (2020b) are really confusing because the information of this paper is very similar to a paper published recently by Ahmed et al. (2020a) which is about the prediction of geotechnical properties of soils in Sulaimani city, Iraq. The authors mentioned that they have collected about 630 data of Unconfined Compression Strength (UCS) tests with density tests from the geotechnical reports in a period between 2017 and 2019 which were extruded, tested and reported by the Ministry of Construction and Housing/ Sulaimni Construction Laboratories (SCL) in Sulaimani City between 2017 and 2019. We would like to inform that during that period only three of these reports were written by Dr. Maysoon Kh. Askar from Masatha Company in Iraq for SCL during 2017 without conducting any Unconfined Compression Strength (UCS) test and the other reports (about 75) were written by Dr. Alshkane as a consultant geotechnical engineer for SCL since 2018. During that period (2018 and 2019) only five Unconfined Compression Strength (UCS) tests (see Table 1) were conducted on undisturbed samples which were obtained by Shelby Tube sampler because the consistency of fine-grained soils in Sulaimani city is very hard and is mostly difficult to obtain undisturbed samples using Shelby Tube for UCS and density tests. Dr. Alshkane has only relied on Standard Penetration Tests (SPT) and plasticity index to determine the allowable bearing capacity of building foundations. In addition, the Sulaimani Constructional Laboratories (SCL) have not conducted any hydrometer tests and swelling tests for building projects and the plasticity chart was only used to find the type of fine-grained soils. The data of the paper by Ahmed et al. (2020b) are fabricated and do not represent the geotechnical properties of Sulaimani city. The authors stated that Equation (1) (presented in two forms: see Table 1 and Equation (6) by Ahmed et al. 2020b) was developed based on data collected from literature (374 data) and the geotechnical reports of Sulaimani city (630 data), but they did not give the details and the sources of the collected data from literature although their study should focus on soils of Sulaimani city as mentioned in the paper title which is the focus of their study. The range of the measured Su for Sulaimani soil was between 10 and 115 kPa whereas according to Figure 13 (Ahmed et al. 2020b) the range was from about 30 to 100 kPa. This range is not true for Sulaimani city soils (see Tables 1 and 2) because finegrained soils are generally hard and their SPT (N) is more than 10 according to our knowledge and based on Table 1 which presents that the range is from 34.5 to 324 kPa, the latter number indicates a very hard clay soil.
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Geomechanics is concerned with the application of the principle of mechanics to earth-materials (namely geo-material). Geoengineering covers a wide range of engineering disciplines related to geo-materials, such as foundation engineering, slope engineering, tunnelling, rock engineering, engineering geology and geo-environmental engineering. Geomechanics and Geoengineering is a major publication channel for research in the areas of soil and rock mechanics, geotechnical and geological engineering, engineering geology, geo-environmental engineering and all geo-material related engineering and science disciplines. The Journal provides an international forum for the exchange of innovative ideas, especially between researchers in Asia and the rest of the world.